Just watched this video. The police are doing absolutely nothing different from any other major road race. To make this about race is absolute lunacy. I'm a very liberal person in a very liberal state, and I am shocked.
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This thread was initially entitled, "Kara Goucher + Boston Marathon Controversy" . 4/20 update The BAA has issueda statement herethat amongst other things "we did not deliver on our promise to make it a great day for everyone".
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From the about this:
"A leader of the Pioneers Run Crew, Aliese Lash, said some members of the club would occasionally jump onto the course to cheer on runners or friends as they passed by Heartbreak Hill, around mile 21."
And: "Newton Police said in a statement that the officers were dispatched after “being notified by the BAA three times about spectators traversing the rope barrier and impeding runners.”"
The article did not elaborate on how/if this group was asked to stop crossing the rope to go onto the course.
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delbertk wrote:
Just watched this video. The police are doing absolutely nothing different from any other major road race. To make this about race is absolute lunacy. I'm a very liberal person in a very liberal state, and I am shocked.
Right. You conservatives pretending to be liberals just need to stop. Then, after that, gth.
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DunRunny12 wrote:
Did anyone see Kara Goucher share from Twitter yesterday with a group of Black fans being surrounding by officers at the Boston Marathon? A lot of people were outraged, but a few folks have rationally pointed to the need for more context outside a 1-minute clip. Wondering what folks here think about Kara boosting the video.Kara Goucher needs to keep quiet.
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Are you on the correct thread? What does that have to do with the story?
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Ahhh man
No more fun for me and my pals at letsrun
Blojo pals
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Ganbatte wrote:
Photo in this link says it all. You can clearly see the crowds on both sides are FAR past the rope barriers. On the right side, they have pushed the rope almost to the center line of the street. Also, it looks like there are as many white people doing this as non-white. Obviously, the crowd was in the wrong and it had nothing to do with race. Going further, this is occurring on a left turn. Essentially, they are eliminating the tangent for the runners which is how the course is measured. They actually lengthened the course for the runners. Thank you, guys!
Firing off confetti cannons on the 10-year anniversary of the bombings is ridiculous. Who would think making a big boom on the course would bring the police to the area?
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A lot of the people who post here never left their early teens. And have accounts on Stormfront (does it still exist?), from the look of things.
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more context here
I ran past this crew, they were inspiring.... but they also were spilled entirely onto the road . the only section of the race this was happening in. Cops are just trying to keep people safe. That's all
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Two thumbs up for Boston Police wrote:
Ganbatte wrote:
Photo in this link says it all. You can clearly see the crowds on both sides are FAR past the rope barriers. On the right side, they have pushed the rope almost to the center line of the street. Also, it looks like there are as many white people doing this as non-white. Obviously, the crowd was in the wrong and it had nothing to do with race. Going further, this is occurring on a left turn. Essentially, they are eliminating the tangent for the runners which is how the course is measured. They actually lengthened the course for the runners. Thank you, guys!
Firing off confetti cannons on the 10-year anniversary of the bombings is ridiculous. Who would think making a big boom on the course would bring the police to the area?
Makes you wonder what the demographics of Kara Gouchers neighborhood is. If she is so concerned about social justice, How many black people does she live next to on her street?
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The_Real_Bullet_Proof wrote:
Two thumbs up for Boston Police wrote:
Photo in this link says it all. You can clearly see the crowds on both sides are FAR past the rope barriers. On the right side, they have pushed the rope almost to the center line of the street. Also, it looks like there are as many white people doing this as non-white. Obviously, the crowd was in the wrong and it had nothing to do with race. Going further, this is occurring on a left turn. Essentially, they are eliminating the tangent for the runners which is how the course is measured. They actually lengthened the course for the runners. Thank you, guys!
Firing off confetti cannons on the 10-year anniversary of the bombings is ridiculous. Who would think making a big boom on the course would bring the police to the area?
Makes you wonder what the demographics of Kara Gouchers neighborhood is. If she is so concerned about social justice, How many black people does she live next to on her street?
Why? Do you poll the demographics of all your neighbors before buying a house?
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Two thumbs up for Boston Police wrote:
Ganbatte wrote:
Photo in this link says it all. You can clearly see the crowds on both sides are FAR past the rope barriers. On the right side, they have pushed the rope almost to the center line of the street. Also, it looks like there are as many white people doing this as non-white. Obviously, the crowd was in the wrong and it had nothing to do with race. Going further, this is occurring on a left turn. Essentially, they are eliminating the tangent for the runners which is how the course is measured. They actually lengthened the course for the runners. Thank you, guys!
Firing off confetti cannons on the 10-year anniversary of the bombings is ridiculous. Who would think making a big boom on the course would bring the police to the area?
What do you envision this "confetti cannon" to look like?
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Chuckleheads galore on LRC wrote:
Racists are gonna be racists. Not surprised to see doubters on this forum.
The white Brojos have not commented yet. So surprised.
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nothing burger wrote:
similar large group of police lined up along Boylston. if you're looking for something wrong, you will find it
These things are not the same.
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Ganbatte wrote:
Hey, that's weird. No police on bikes, forming a barricade, despite a crowd of folks encroaching on the course. Makes you wonder why.
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Having spent a good chunk of the day across the street from these guys I can say pretty confidently the complaints weren't racially motivated. As the pictures show, this group had spectators far beyond the barriers multiple times and had multiple people jump out into the race course to run behind racers for a hundred feet or so. They also fired off the confetti canons practically into the faces of both the men's and women's lead packs. That being said, they had a great vibe and it was an absolute blast hanging out there. Maybe lay off the confetti canons in people's faces and stay behind the white lines next year.
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When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that
In Paterson that’s just the way things go
If you’re black
You might as well not show up on the street
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Serious question but instead of setting up 10
cops in front of their group would it be reasonable to first ask if you can please stay off the course even if it’s to encourage a runner?
If a Karen complained because they were loud. That’s Karen’s problem.
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sacrailiac wrote:
Some say yay wrote:
But not one that is continually treated this way by police.
How do you know? How do you know the people in the video are "continually treated this way by police?" How do you NOT know by now that crying racism is just about the standard defense mechanism for certain groups of people when they don't get their way. About a month ago I saw a black woman get nabbed trying to walk out of Walgreen's with a bunch of merchandise stuffed in her jacket and that's exactly what she did, started screaming that the store staff was racist, and also that the whole city we were in was racist, and then also the whole country was racist. It became a whole rant that escalated very quickly. It's a diversionary technique, nothing more or less, and it works sometimes because no one wants to get the reputation of being a racist, and it only takes one viral incident to get that reputation, especially in an era where all it takes is one person to whip out their phone and record the incident once its underway, so you don't get the context that led up to it, and them to post that video on twitter.
More to the point, as another poster said just look at how Ms. Desir is trying to make her money. She was going to find some half-baked racism charge against Boston / the BAA / the city to promote, because after the BAA included her as part of a little pre-race conversation event where she was given a place of equal standing alongside several much more accomplished athletes and authors, she had to keep that momentum going somehow. Notice how in her post retweeting the incident, she tags the other women she appeared at the talk with and asks them to do their bit in promoting the BS video. Ms. Desir didn't want the association of her name with the other more accomplished women to end just because the pre-race talk had already ended. And she doesn't want to have to move on from calling the marathon that included her at a talk racist just because the marathon is over. She's a grifter and she was able to guilt a guilty white liberal mom, Kara Goucher, into doing some work for her. Pretty standard stuff in the 2020s, honestly. We'll have to get over this sort of crap eventually but I suspect it will take us a while - at least as long as it takes for nice liberal moms to not feel so guilty about everything all the time.
I think the bigger issue here is not just race but fame-hoggers. The economy is tough right now so people want to go viral and famous to not only get wealthy but open up connections--and thus, security (and more money/fame). At the risk of sounding obvious this is also why you have so many latching onto social media/writing books/songs/music to try to make it big and get a built-in audience/money/connections for the rest of their life.
Ali on the Run and others are like this. Desir's "racism" rant makes it worse for people who are experiencing true racism too. People don't want to be accused of it...If I am BAA, I don't invite her back regardless of her stance. They helped her out and then she crapped on them a few hours later.
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