Dathan Ritzenhein OUT of 2018 Boston Marathon

Anarcho-Capitalist runner wrote:

bone expert. wrote:

This isn’t true (and for a man it’s testosterone, not estrogen). Body fat has nothing to do with it. It’s energy balance and availability. You have to provide enough energy to counter the expenditure. Plenty of very thin women still ovulate because they eat very well to maintain energy and hormonal balance. If you eat a lot and frequently it also keeps your metabolism working (hence, get thin). If you don’t eat well your hormonal milieu gets thrown off and the first thing to go is your reproductive system. If you can’t provide enough energy for yourself you certainly can’t provide for a fetus. Your bones are a tertiary effect of the lower estrogen or testosterone in men.

Please back up your expertise. Thank you.

Please back up YOUR "expertise." Thank you.

Pretzel Man wrote:

Sorry to hear this, I was looking forward to racing him again. But seriously feel bad for him.

Same here, I was really looking forward to seeing Ritz race at a high level again, after his performance in the NYC Half.

And to all the people that say Ritz should suck it up and race, I am willing to bet that Ritz has an insane pain tolerance and probably was already injured before he decided to drop out. I can't imagine what zones of pain he has entered to put up some of the performances that he has.

Clueless ~ wrote:

What is an SI joint injury?

Doctor Google wrote:

Even hear of this thing called Google? It’s amazing, you should try it.

No, thanks.

I much prefer being injury free.

Not entirely shocked, seriously deflated to read this. My favorite American runner, my hero in high school. I believed Ritz’s positivety and his results since being in Hanson’s have been strong I saw that fire in his eyes when he won over in the UK. I guess I’ll still tune in Monday but jeez....don’t have a horse in this race anymore. See ya at the trials Ritz!

I'm glad you are here on this board to help us out. Now I know I can feel completely guilt free when I have an emaciated runner that I coach.

You did a great job of refuting that persons contention that Ritz is too thin to stay injury free by commenting that free energy is all that matters.

Its true, as long as the runner just eats like a humming bird, it wont matter if they have a bmi of 16. I'm going to start putting my thinnest runners into a glucose drip at night to make sure that they maintain their free energy status, then they can be as skinny as they want and run ultra efficiently.

You should start a website to help female athletes reach their potential. You could call it

or

or something. You should be sure to include a section about how the fact that all the ultra skinny runners get injured constantly is just correlation, not causation, then go on to explain how you're an anonymous expert and post a link to a single abstract that is semi related to your topic.

BS wrote:

As for those wondering why this always seems to happen near the end of his training cycle is like wondering if its that last drink that made you drunk and ignoring the 8 before it. Most of Ritz's injuries have come not from a specific trauma but from accumulated stress - its not that last few weeks workout(s) but rather likely something that started in one of his primary training cycles and that's also the reason its so darn hard to figure out exactly what went wrong and when and figurte out a way to avoid it next time.

Well, then, don't drink 9 drinks. Find your sweet spot and stick to it. The fact is that he keeps running good/great halfs, supposedly having great buildups, then either gets injured right before or during the marathon -- Trials, NYC, now this.

Working super, super hard is a virtue, yes, but so is the fine art of showing up on the starting line in one piece. Consistency and dependability is one very underappreciated thing Rupp excels at. I believe Ritz still has unbelievable talent. But not stepping over that line where his body breaks down had never been a priority, and it shows

Doctor Google wrote:

Clueless ~ wrote:

What is an SI joint injury?

Even hear of this thing called Google? It’s amazing, you should try it.

SI = sacroiliac joint

Quit being lazy and search for the rest.

What is Google?

I was rooting for Ritz to pull it together one more time and run his fastest marathon to date. Boston may not have been the best place for that anyway and he would have been overshadowed by Rupp.

Its been great following his career, but the end is near I think . He ran a couple of awful races last year and this recent half was ok, but even good by his standards.

just go for it wrote:

unless Ritzenhein's injury has been around for a while and it really negatively affects his gait so he can't run 26 miles without cramps or has cost him fitness, he should just race.

maybe there's a lot he isn't telling us and he's missed a lot of training, but if it's a rather new injury, why not just go for it?

he has an amazing threshold for pain so he could push through it. what does he have to lose?! - his career is waning quickly and he hasn't raced in forever.

i wouldn't normally advise this approoan the marathon, but let's see him race a marathon if he's fit

He raced less than 4 weeks ago.

My thoughts wrote:

I just don't see what kind of workout you would be doing 1 1/2 weeks out from a marathon that would suddenly give you this injury.

My guess is he was nursing an injury, and either it didn't get better or the last marathon pace session aggravated/made it worse.

Did you even read his post? He has been nursing it. Good god, people.

just go for it wrote:

unless Ritzenhein's injury has been around for a while and it really negatively affects his gait so he can't run 26 miles without cramps or has cost him fitness, he should just race.

Another idiotic post.

Wire Whipper wrote:

Clueless ~ wrote:

What is an SI joint injury?

Wrist fracture when the swimsuit issue comes out.

brilliant

running commenter wrote:

just go for it wrote:

unless Ritzenhein's injury has been around for a while and it really negatively affects his gait so he can't run 26 miles without cramps or has cost him fitness, he should just race.

Another idiotic post.

Good analysis.

running commenter wrote:

My thoughts wrote:

I just don't see what kind of workout you would be doing 1 1/2 weeks out from a marathon that would suddenly give you this injury.

My guess is he was nursing an injury, and either it didn't get better or the last marathon pace session aggravated/made it worse.

Did you even read his post? He has been nursing it. Good god, people.

no he hasn't. he wrote it happened suddenly, not that he's been nursing it.

stop writing posts like you're an authority on this.

you dunce

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

post a link to a single abstract that is semi related to your topic.

Did you even bother to look at the paper he cited? It's not just some paper. It is the American College of Sports Medicine's positiom paper on the female triad.

Those guys might be full of it. You might even know that they are. But sarcasm attacking a strawman probably isn't the way to convince the rest of us that you are right.

But hey, it's LRC.com, so dream on.

correcting the dunce wrote:

just go for it wrote:

unless Ritzenhein's injury has been around for a while and it really negatively affects his gait so he can't run 26 miles without cramps or has cost him fitness, he should just race.

maybe there's a lot he isn't telling us and he's missed a lot of training, but if it's a rather new injury, why not just go for it?

he has an amazing threshold for pain so he could push through it. what does he have to lose?! - his career is waning quickly and he hasn't raced in forever.

i wouldn't normally advise this approoan the marathon, but let's see him race a marathon if he's fit

He raced less than 4 weeks ago.

That was a tune up race for Boston. He hasn't raced anything significant in a long time.

confident but incorrect wrote:

running commenter wrote:

Did you even read his post? He has been nursing it. Good god, people.

no he hasn't. he wrote it happened suddenly, not that he's been nursing it.

stop writing posts like you're an authority on this.

you dunce

Apparently you don't know how to read either. And dunce? Are you a member of the three stooges?

Tune ups are Tune ups wrote:

correcting the dunce wrote:

He raced less than 4 weeks ago.

That was a tune up race for Boston. He hasn't raced anything significant in a long time.

If he has an amazing threshold for pain why can’t he train and race through his injuries? It actually sounds like anytime he had any pain he stops running