michiganrunner60 wrote:
Boston is a point to point course. Not eligible for records
Um, John Korir set a record yesterday. Explain that!
Can we stop talking about how fast everyone ran today
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Clor? More like Bore! wrote:
Elizabeth Clor finished off her Boston PR....
Called it a great day
Desipte being in course PR shape AND perfect running conditions, she still fell a minute short.
You know she is obsessing over the splits (even though she says she doesn't do this) and trying to figure out where she could have saved 40 seconds. It's probably driving her absolutely nuts...which I think is hilarious.
She's turned to talking about "Heartbreak Hill PR" and "Last 3 miles PR" and "Fastest Boston segment I've done on (insert name here)".
Her folllowers just eat this crap up.
How does she have so many followers in the first place? Privileged marketing pro from NoVa.
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When you manage to qualify, and afford it, then you let us know if the tail wind helped you.
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Yes Boston is slower than Berlin, Chicago, London, Rotterdam, Barcelona, Valencia...... so a 2.05 in Boston should be a 2.03 elsewhere. Is that what u want? there is no such thing, but yes it is slower.
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This is not why.
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Yeah we didnt see Sawe complaining about Berlin being hot as hell and ruining his sub 2 attempt.
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Don't know which Africans you refer too, but arguably the worlds best (African or not) marathoner in the world over the last 3 years just ran 2.01. Are you saying there are others who run 1.58?
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TemporaryData2203 wrote:
When you manage to qualify, and afford it, then you let us know if the tail wind helped you.
You make it sound like qualifying is supposed to be hard. Its not, I did years ago, and yes it did, and no I don't count it as my PR.
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I ran and think that the temperatures were as ideal as they can get. Tail wind was nice for awhile, but I I also felt cross winds and then some head wind after Heartbreak. I am not fit, and did not PR. For anyone that did PR, nice work - you can't take advantage of good conditions if you don't show up prepared.
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place matters wrote:
For me, it's the place position that is the most telling. Essentially, you have world-class guys finishing between 10th and 15th place running 2:05. If you just look at the place, most of those guys would have considered that a bad day. 20th place was a 2:07!
It was an outlier day for the ages. Everything came together. Huge tailwind, perfect temperatures and cloud cover, net downhill, lots of parity in the competition. It's the day we all hope for, and you can't get those days if you don't toe the line and take your shot, so kudos to all who hit the jackpot today.
However, if you just look at the average time for 15th place at Boston since the inception of super shoes (2017), it's 2:15:05. Today, 15th place was 2:06:06. That's 9 minutes, folks.
These marathon PBs will live on the athlete bios for eternity, but they should come with an asterisk (and not even because it's a net downhill course).
If you think 9 minutes comes from shoes alone, you are smoking crxck friendo.
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Aouita 84 wrote:
I'm not going to get into a "wind legal" argument, whatever the weather is, so be it, but elevation gain/loss is a legitimate variable that directly relates to performance.
One of the reason point-to-point courses aren't record eligible is explicitly because of potential wind aid.
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330 runners under 2:30, 1222 runners under 2:40. Compare to last year, which had decent weather- 209 & 806. Probably see similar enough depth in top-end amateur field from year to year. It's not perfect, but 300th place was 2:29:29/2026 & 2:32:35/2025. I think 2-3min faster this year is right. I'm honestly just mad I didn't run this year. 2x in 15 years has had weather like this. Usually Boston runs 2-3min+ slow & you're trying to convince people what your effort is worth. Runners deserve breaks every now & then when PBs are, often times, weather dependent. I'm ok with claiming Boston PBs since it runs slower most years compared to a normal Berlin/Chicago. People who have a Boston PB not from yesterday would probably have a faster time with the same effort on a different course. It is what it is. Be happy for people. & be prepared for the chaos that will be 2027 registration + corrals.
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Exactly, its like the 200m in Australia where every one gave out about.
All the times set in Boston should not be PR/PB's for the pros.
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What record was that?
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Average_runner wrote:
Exactly, its like the 200m in Australia where every one gave out about.
All the times set in Boston should not be PR/PB's for the pros.
Why is everyone so tweaked about this? It was a great day and lots of people ran fast. Why can't you Just be happy for them?
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Can we all at least agree that Seth DeMoor would have OTQ’d at Boston?
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I am happy for them, but you have people on here saying how brilliant they are and how great it is even though it had a massive tailwind and yet the same people gave out about the 200m in Australia because of the wind.
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