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doubler wrote:
voice of reason wrote:He cheated. You brought this to his attention, you brought it to the race's attention, and then you brought it from your blog to LRC.
What is your ultimate goal? Are you just looking to publicly shame the guy?
I didn't bring it here. You won't believe me, but whatever.
You're right. I don't believe you.
Care to answer my questions?
Hmm.... yep think I'll go all caps, always a great choice. Carry on Marlon.
JC PEEBLY wrote:
IT DOES SEEM EXCESSIVE. PERHAPS JUST CONTACTING THE RACE TO DQ IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO????
voice of reason wrote:
He cheated. You brought this to his attention, you brought it to the race's attention, and then you brought it from your blog to LRC.
What is your ultimate goal? Are you just looking to publicly shame the guy?
It is, and that's not a bad thing.
No one cheats to get into Boston and then hides their medal in their desk drawer. They post pics on Twitter and Instagram, they write blogs and Facebook posts about all the hard work they did to get there. They go to their work and running friends and offer advice and counsel on running based on the false assumption that they are someone that are not.
They do it for the attention. They want to be minor celebrities. They are getting what they want, just not in the way they want.
Public shaming is the only the way to compel them to stop doing what they are doing, and discourage other to do the same. If Doublr quietly contacts NJ or Boston and let's them know and they DQ him. There are no consequences, no one Marlon is conning is going to go occasionally re-check marathon results to see if he's still listed. Marlon continues what he's doing and the whole world is none the wiser.
Public Shaming can go overboard (especially now in the digital age), but not in this case. The shaming will only get as bad as Marlon let's it. If Marlon wants it to stop, all he has to do is admit what he did, and ask the marathons to DQ him for it, it would be the end of the story.
Or he can let it fester till the thread gets so long that only a few people bother to check it. I stopped following the Rossi Thread around page 200 (and that was 80 pages too long). I have no idea what those lunatics are still talking about.
voice of reason wrote:
doubler wrote:I didn't bring it here. You won't believe me, but whatever.
You're right. I don't believe you.
Care to answer my questions?
Seems obvious he's trying to eliminate cheating in marathons. All marathons. He's doing that by bringing public attention to the matter and trying to get people disqualified for cheating. It's a sound strategy to obtain his goal. Hopefully it works as it really seems to be a growing problem.
If you have a better way to accomplish this goal, please explain how you, as the voice of reason, would eliminate cheating in marathons.
Seems clear wrote:
voice of reason wrote:You're right. I don't believe you.
Care to answer my questions?
Seems obvious he's trying to eliminate cheating in marathons. All marathons. He's doing that by bringing public attention to the matter and trying to get people disqualified for cheating. It's a sound strategy to obtain his goal. Hopefully it works as it really seems to be a growing problem.
If you have a better way to accomplish this goal, please explain how you, as the voice of reason, would eliminate cheating in marathons.
How big of a 'growing problem' is this? It seems like it is a very, very small problem for Boston.
Looks good to me wrote:
th3bt wrote:Thanks Doubler.
I may not agree with your methods, but i believe your heart is in the right place. Anyone who sets a 40 minute PR and has a chip malfunction has a lot of explaining to do. Especially when their gun time and chip time are minutes apart.
There is nothing suspicious about any of this gentleman's times. You are all just haters and home wreckers.
- MR
Obviously. All jealous little girls here.
Poor MB, missed a mat because of a malfunction, and now the trolls go crazy.
It's a big problem for Marlon!
(And for those who are cheated out of getting to run Boston by folks like him.)
WHO CARES
At least he is active and in jog events
Better than doing drugs and sitting on his but!!
LRCers need to get a life !!!
Does this guy, Malcomb, have a facebook page?
he could do it ! wrote:
WHO CARES
At least he is active and in jog events
Better than doing drugs and sitting on his but!!
LRCers need to get a life !!!
guy with a life here, answering your post: lots of people care.
derek, keep it up. don't worry about legal threats, he has no case here.
1. In reviewing the pics from MarathonFoto website for his NJ Marathon race, I noticed that he's also missing photos from 2 different areas of the race.
2. If he paid the Charity fee to get into Boston (since that doesn't require a BQ time) then does any of this matter?
Yes, he did charity bib one year but claims to have "qualified" (not a charity bib) for 2016
It's as simple as posting one strava activity showing anything close to this ability.
When you make yourself a public figure, you open yourself up to scrutiny. When you boast of qualifying for Boston, you open yourself up to an accounting for that qualification. When your qualification is suspicious at best, you merit a closer look.
so he is 39 in 2012 philadelphia marathon and he is 35 in Boston 2016 and 33 in Boston 2015 and 33 in Boston 2014??
in the 30-34 for NEw Jersey 2015 3:05
listed as 40 in the New Jersey Half for 2014 in 2:51
listed as 39 in the New Jersey Marathon for 2013 in ETA of 5:58 because he missed the 30k timing mat and the finish timing mat.
so I see his 3:05 2015 NJ marathon qualifier for 2016
how did he get into Boston for 2013 and 2014?
all very strange
el hombre wrote:
It's as simple as posting one strava activity showing anything close to this ability.
When you make yourself a public figure, you open yourself up to scrutiny. When you boast of qualifying for Boston, you open yourself up to an accounting for that qualification. When your qualification is suspicious at best, you merit a closer look.
While Strava is good as it doesn't allow you to edit results, it is still flawed. You can ride a bike and label it as a run. There are a few around my area that have done that to claim KOMs on segments and they got outed and results removed.
voice of reason wrote:
He cheated. You brought this to his attention, you brought it to the race's attention, and then you brought it from your blog to LRC.
What is your ultimate goal? Are you just looking to publicly shame the guy?
Yes. There is something unseemly about the whole thing.
Lurker wrote:
I loved the guy who wrote that if we saw "his . . . technique" we would not doubt his times. Really, he does drills well, so he must be a somewhat above average marathoner?
I cannot tell you the number of times I would show up to races when I was 5 or 10 pounds overweight, looking like the 20th best runner out there and thinking that I might be in trouble, then go out and beat all but a handful of them.
Using the "just look at him - its obvious he can do this" defense in the face of the data that is available to the contrary in this day and age is just mind boggling.
Raysism wrote:I feel bad for us as athletes when I read the defenders of these cheaters in the comments. If I walked out of a basketball gym and told people I'd just hit fifteen 3-pointers in a row and dunked on a guy in a competitive game, they would just laugh at me. But these guys who don't even pass the eye test can say that they ran a 22-mile split at 6:20 pace and their friends are like "you don't know how hard they work!!1!1".
I and a lot of LR addicts can tell how good a runner is by viewing his running form. Post a video of Marlon Bascombe running a lap of his local high school track I can tell you how good a run he is LIKELY to be.
careful wrote:
el hombre wrote:It's as simple as posting one strava activity showing anything close to this ability.
When you make yourself a public figure, you open yourself up to scrutiny. When you boast of qualifying for Boston, you open yourself up to an accounting for that qualification. When your qualification is suspicious at best, you merit a closer look.
While Strava is good as it doesn't allow you to edit results, it is still flawed. You can ride a bike and label it as a run. There are a few around my area that have done that to claim KOMs on segments and they got outed and results removed.
Only a USATF certified course where all Rossi mats are crossed and recorded with no data irregularities can be used as actual proof of performance. Garmin/GPS data can validate as a second checkpoint. Otherwise, it didn't happen.
The original thread got deleted or change. So Derek's starts a new thread under a new name then throws in the "I think this will get deleted"
To me, this guy is way worse than Rossi.
Rossi cheated and took a bib and won't admit it...whatever.
This guy makes a living off his lies. He probably would get by financially without them, as a lot of his clients probably don't care, but I doubt he would be an ambassador for a shoe brand or be nearly as popular as he seems to be. He clearly seems to think it's worth making the effort to cheat to help his business.
I'm a hobby jogger who sees a strength and conditioning coach and I'd love it my coach could have a shoe deal etc. as well, but he's not willing to lie and cheat and pretend he can do something he can't. I imagine a lot of trainers aren't doing nearly as well as this guy because they aren't willing to lie and cheat to help them publicize.
So yeah, this guy is the worst cheat I've seen out there. He's screwing over other runners AND trainers.