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Which it wasn't. Yes, a bit of rope was warranted in those turns, especially after the women had trampled all over those faint white lines (flour?, lime?)

Huh?? Fake news.

You didn't hear?!? Trump has had ICE on it and the nefarious foreign runners have been sent to Siberia.

For me it's the most entertaining part of the race. Watching a runner that is about to go down at the end of the race reach for that watch is great entertainment. I have given them a score for style like in gymnastics. Best one is 2024 Woodbridge the runner was on the ground for 45 seconds before they were assisted. As the runner is going down and into pass out mode the automatic reach for that watch could not be denied.

Go to the 2 minute mark of the race. They were already cutting corners.

saw sjöberg got 8th in the womens race. that plus her NCAA 5k medal tell me that she should probably focus on the 5k instead of the 1500, she clearly has the endurance.

How about Syracuse getting 4th

Jim Spivey, 15rh 1978

Dave Smith believes in affirmative action

Prediction Contest was a joke - didn't work at all

Would Lemngole have beaten Faith Cherotich and Winfred Yavi had they raced on Sat at Gans Creek?

I felt amazing out there guys.

Yavi did an XC race and trounced couple of solid 14:30ish runner (Jepkemei, Amebaw) recently. So no, Yavi is a beast.

I'd love to know if any of the on-course officials tried to report any specific runners and were told to stand down.

Maybe Stenuf can manage and develop top talent but can't coach scrubs.

Thanks for sharing the research you’ve done to support your statement. I understand your point: Alabama typically isn’t recruiting the same profile of athletes as programs that regularly land full-ride, top-tier American prospects like Angelina, Grace, Jane, or Lexy. When the majority of the roster is made up of walk-ons or athletes on very small scholarships from domestically, it’s unrealistic to expect All-American-level results across the board.
That doesn’t mean those athletes don’t bring value, though. Many of them develop significantly once they’re in the program, and some can absolutely exceed expectations even without arriving as blue-chip recruits.
In other words, the issue isn’t effort or ability—it’s the recruiting profile. Expecting All-American output from athletes who weren’t recruited as All-American-level prospects sets everyone up for frustration. Recognizing where the program realistically sits in the recruiting landscape helps create more reasonable expectations and allows the athletes who are there to be appreciated for what they actually contribute. Here is the research done for you. Current girls from this past seasons track tfrrs list and their HS milesplit numbers I could find. I just went off of the list and I also excluded graduated girls. I didn’t want to take more time than I already did responding to this post.

Keaton Morrison (senior) High School - 2:09.32/4:49 College - 2:04.35/4:16.23(1500)

Lilly Walters (junior) High School - 4:59/10:33 College - 4:25.50/9:19.52(3k)/10:06 Steeple

Leah Kleekamp (senior) High School - 5:13/11:31 College - 4:32.45/9:46(3k)/16:55(5k)/20:58 (6k this year)

Taylor McCue (junior) High School - 5:01/11:03 College - 4:31

Meriel Rowland (sophomore) High School - 5:06/10:57 . College - 20:53 (6k this year)

This also does not include Dorenkamp who was there last year and improved a lot her first year with Stenuf. Hopefully we see something from her soon at Colorado, I really enjoyed watching her in high school. She ran 9:13 indoors at Alabama (9:21 outdoor HS pb).

Yeah that's kind of crazy how much they didn't care about people crossing over and I imagine it's set in stone now but man.

I have high school experience from cross and track where they are much more strict about it. In a cross country meet a guy right in front of me was practically dragged out of a race by an official for cutting a flag. And in track obviously at big invitationals they have officials lining the bends making sure people are not stepping on the line and I've seen people DQ'd at the state meet for being inches over it. You'd think the NCAA would be at least as careful as the high school officials.