Are the Hackers The First Foot Locker Father-Son Qualifiers

Rocha rocks wrote:

Caterina Rocha. Both parents were FL finalists. Plus her Uncle.

unless Catrina is a boy this has nothinhG to do with this thread/question

Rocha rocks wrote:

Caterina Rocha. Both parents were FL finalists. Plus her Uncle.

unless Catrina is a boy this has nothinhG to do with this thread/question

Tom Graves and Griff Graves?

Abingdon wrote:

Tom Graves and Griff Graves?

Asked and answered earlier.

Answer: No. Tom ran before 1979 (the first year of Foot Locker)

hello? wrote:

Ummm...ever heard of the Cetrowitz brothers?

Matt does not have a brother. He has a sister.

Also, Matt Sr. was in college in 1976 and Kinney's started in 1979.

So the Centrowitz father and son combo is impossible.

Tim Hacker's wife and I assume Olin Hacker's mother, is the sister of Wisco great Steve Lacy, who I believe was the first Badger under 4:00 for the mile. So Olin has pretty good genetics from both Mom and Dad. http://www.uwathletics.com/hall_of_fame/year.aspx?HOFID=23

Steve Lacy actually made both the 1980 and 1984 US Olympic Team, according to his bio on the UW Hall of Fame link... http://www.uwathletics.com/hall_of_fame/year.aspx?HOFID=23

Alumni Mark Winzenried ran under four in 1972, Lacy was the first UW student to do so.

rundanrun220 wrote:

Tim Hacker's wife and I assume Olin Hacker's mother, is the sister of Wisco great Steve Lacy, who I believe was the first Badger under 4:00 for the mile. So Olin has pretty good genetics from both Mom and Dad.

http://www.uwathletics.com/hall_of_fame/year.aspx?HOFID=23

I believe that it was Tim Hacker's sister, Cathy, who married Steve Lacy.

jjjjj wrote:

Matt Centrowitz certainly didn't get his endurance through his mother, right?

Since many don't have children until their 30s, you aren't going to get a lot of children old enough to compete in Footlocker to this point. Probably the first class had a fair # of children by 1991 (at age 30), and those children would be 23 or a bit older now. So, there have realistically been only about half a dozen years to really test this out much. .

The average age for having a first child is 25 and a month, 15 in Arkansas.

Randy Oldman wrote:

jjjjj wrote:

Matt Centrowitz certainly didn't get his endurance through his mother, right?

Since many don't have children until their 30s, you aren't going to get a lot of children old enough to compete in Footlocker to this point. Probably the first class had a fair # of children by 1991 (at age 30), and those children would be 23 or a bit older now. So, there have realistically been only about half a dozen years to really test this out much. .

The average age for having a first child is 25 and a month, 15 in Arkansas.

Is that the average age for footlocker finalists? Most of them likely go on to college, and I'll bet that average age of first child goes up with education.

messi wrote:

Reuben & Rio Reina.

Rio is Ruebens nephew, he's Randys son.

i know this is not completely pertinent to the thread, but...

are the reynolds (father eric, son garrett of ventura h.s.) the first father/son footlocker/nxn combo?

rundanrun220 wrote:

Tim Hacker's wife and I assume Olin Hacker's mother, is the sister of Wisco great Steve Lacy, who I believe was the first Badger under 4:00 for the mile. So Olin has pretty good genetics from both Mom and Dad.

http://www.uwathletics.com/hall_of_fame/year.aspx?HOFID=23

I never understand why someone posts someone like this, making it seem like it is factual. As someone has pointed out, Tim Hacker's wife is not related to Steve Lacy. Steve Lacy married Tim Hacker's sister and that is why they are brother in laws. And as would be expected, Lacy's kids were all very good runners.

Centro's mother ran a 2:08 800 in college, so the mother's side theory can't be disproved using him as a case study:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2006-04-29/sports/0604290493_1_penn-relays-sprint-medley-maryland-masters

Tim Hackers wife is Oriental, Lacy isn't.

Well, you have a good start, but just think, there are about 80 per year and there are close to 100 million parents, so ~80/year x 35 years/100,000,000 versus 4/1000 (4/250: really can only count those parents from the first 15 years, so that is 4/(80 x 2 x 15)). The frequencies are so vastly different that they are absolutely two entirely different types of populations in this regard. That is roughly 1 in a 100 versus 1 in 400,000 (I did not even look at the math too closely because it is so unbalanced), or 4000 times more likely. Note the complete inability of the first poster to have a clue how to find the answer.

jsully13 wrote:

Yes, the Hackers are the 1st father-son Foot Locker Ntl qualifiers

and i believe the 2nd Father-Son qualifiers are now in the books as Carter Cheeseman (4th FL South) joined his father Ken (1982) as a national qualifier.

1982 results -

How about another father / son

Dave Scudamore (10th place in 1987) and his son Harrison qualifying 7th out of the Midwest this weekend??