Thoughts on Mondo’s AMERICAN pole vault record?

Great for him. Any one know what happened to the other thread about him?

I dont think mile split has it right.

That's tricky.

American father. Swedish mother.

Maintains dual citizenship.

Looks like he was born and raised in the US.

He chose to compete for Sweden.

I think an American Record should require that the athlete represents the US.

Bernard Lagat became a US citizen in 2004 and ran 3:27 that year but that time is not the American Record. He competed for Kenya in the Olympics that year.

Lagat's 3:29.30 that he ran in 2005 after he announced he would compete for the US and not Kenya is the ratified American Record for the 1500m.

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

I dont think mile split has it right.

Well they do and you don't.

Star wrote:

That's tricky.

American father. Swedish mother.

Maintains dual citizenship.

Looks like he was born and raised in the US.

He chose to compete for Sweden.

I think an American Record should require that the athlete represents the US.

Bernard Lagat became a US citizen in 2004 and ran 3:27 that year but that time is not the American Record. He competed for Kenya in the Olympics that year.

Lagat's 3:29.30 that he ran in 2005 after he announced he would compete for the US and not Kenya is the ratified American Record for the 1500m.

Agree - athlete should be competing for the country that they break the national record for.

What if Mondo declared himself a "citizen of the world"? Would that mean that his next big vault would be a national record for about 180 countries?

Ha

Ha

Ha

/sarcasm

He is currently an American citizen. Was Lagat an American at the time?

Star wrote:

That's tricky.

American father. Swedish mother.

Maintains dual citizenship.

Looks like he was born and raised in the US.

He chose to compete for Sweden.

I think an American Record should require that the athlete represents the US.

Bernard Lagat became a US citizen in 2004 and ran 3:27 that year but that time is not the American Record. He competed for Kenya in the Olympics that year.

Lagat's 3:29.30 that he ran in 2005 after he announced he would compete for the US and not Kenya is the ratified American Record for the 1500m.

Bernard Lagat could have had his 3:27 ratified as the American record but he was hiding the fact that he had become a citizen

knowerofthings wrote:

He is currently an American citizen. Was Lagat an American at the time?

Yes. Lagat was an American citizen at the time when he ran 3:27.

Hardloper wrote:

Bernard Lagat could have had his 3:27 ratified as the American record but he was hiding the fact that he had become a citizen

I think you are correct there.

The athlete has to apply for an American Record to be ratified within a certain period of time after the performance.

Since Lagat was about to compete for Kenya in Athens, he was not about to draw attention to his citizenship and risk being taken off the Kenyan squad.

So, I guess by rule, Duplantis can be an American Record holder.

If so, should that rule be changed?

You cannot represent two different countries at the same time in international competition.

He couldn't vault for the US and run on the Sweden 4X100 team in the same meet.

I think a national record would have to correspond to the nation that the athlete is representing on the day of the performance.

Is that too much to ask?

Like a school record.

You can't get a school record for two different schools with one performance.

Star wrote:

You cannot represent two different countries at the same time in international competition.

He couldn't vault for the US and run on the Sweden 4X100 team in the same meet.

Why not? It happens in politics everyday. Just ask people like Adam Schiff, and co.

The US do not have any good pole vault athletes at the moment. In fact they seldom did. A 6.05 guy won't fear the trials for sure.

Partridge wrote:

The US do not have any good pole vault athletes at the moment. In fact they seldom did. A 6.05 guy won't fear the trials for sure.

Sam Kendricks?

However, from what I have read the decision was not based on him being “scared” of competition at the trials, but that he didn’t want to have to compete at the trials in the first place.

Yee wrote:

erer wrote:

Why is he competing for Sweden?

Does he prefer the Swedish Islamic rape culture?

If he represented the USA he would have to compete at the Trials to make Olympic/Worlds teams. Apparently Sweden doesn’t have the same system of qualification.

That seems to point to a lack of self-confidence.

Yes, the Trials are a risk, but this shouldn't be a problem for a star athlete.

I would also assume he can make way more money as an American.

I don't know of many athletes that compete at the trials if they didn't have to.

Look at those that are reigning champions that have a wildcard entry.

They never compete in their event at the trials that year.

Back to Lagat.

His American record was set in a year where he was not eligible to represent the US at the World Championships (2005).

"I would also assume he can make way more money as an American."

I agree with that. His decision probably hurts him financially.

But maybe he gets a bunch of Swedish chicks now. Fair trade.

https://geekologie.com/2009/06/26/swedish%20knockers.jpg

Star wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Bernard Lagat could have had his 3:27 ratified as the American record but he was hiding the fact that he had become a citizen

I think you are correct there.

The athlete has to apply for an American Record to be ratified within a certain period of time after the performance.

Since Lagat was about to compete for Kenya in Athens, he was not about to draw attention to his citizenship and risk being taken off the Kenyan squad.

There is no time limit to apply for an American Record, but it gets harder to ratify the farther away from the mark you are (unless it was ratified by the IAAF as a world record). Jeff Hartwig had three indoor marks above the ratified USR, two were not able to be ratified but the third was, and he was granted the US indoor record like 12 years after the fact lol.

I am not sure what the whole story is with Lagat's 3:27, but I intend to make sure the records committee reviews all marks by dual citizens that are possibly eligible to be US Records this year.

Star wrote:

Back to Lagat.

His American record was set in a year where he was not eligible to represent the US at the World Championships (2005).

Doesn't matter. The rule only says you have to be a US citizen.