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he never gave up
PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:11PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2002, junior year of high school: Matthew Elliot of Green Sea High School in South Carolina runs elite high school girl times at 1A state meet to win title and falters in the 3200 with a nice sub-elite marathon 2 mile split.

Boys 1600 Meter Run
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Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Elliott, Matthew 11 GSF 4:47.90 10
2 Shaw, Aaron 11 HEMI 4:50.81 8
3 Burroughs, Shawn 12 NCEN 4:54.75 6
4 Gower, Todd 11 CCHU 5:01.32 5
5 Gleason, Paul 10 CFAL 5:02.70 4
6 Jordan, Chad 11 NCEN 5:20.72 3
7 Campbell, Daniel 10 HPAM 5:26.49 2

Boys 3200 Meter Run
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Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Burroughs, Shawn 12 NCEN 10:54.91 10
2 Jordan, Chad 11 NCEN 10:58.74 8
3 Tejeda, Raphael 10 MCBE 11:03.24 6
4 Elliott, Matthew 11 GSF 11:15.82 5
5 Cole, Brandon 12 GOV 11:33.78 4
6 Odom, Wallace 12 JOHN 11:41.31 3
7 Shy, Kyle 10 BLCK 11:52.14 2
8 Martin, Bradley 9 JOHN 12:20.93 1




2003, senior year of high school: Matthew Elliot WINS the 1A state title in the 1600 meters with a 4:48.98, and finishes third in 800 with a 2:09.64.

Boys 800 Meter Run Class A
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State Meet: R 1:52.04 1984 Terance Herrington, Hartsville
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Shaw, Aaron 12 Hemingway 2:06.34 10
2 Davis, Bobby 12 S'Side Chrst 2:06.91 8
3 Elliott, Matthew 12 Green Sea-Floyds 2:09.64 6
4 Hawkins, Karl 11 East Clarendon 2:11.33 5
5 Allen, Kyle 8 Blackville-Hilda 2:12.15 4
6 Crew, Brandon 10 Landrum 2:13.04 3
7 Griffin, Cory 10 Ninety-Six 2:13.50 2
8 Wise, Kevin 12 Johnsonville 2:17.97 1




Boys 800 Meter Run Class A
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State Meet: R 1:52.04 1984 Terance Herrington, Hartsville
Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Shaw, Aaron 12 Hemingway 2:06.34 10
2 Davis, Bobby 12 S'Side Chrst 2:06.91 8
3 Elliott, Matthew 12 Green Sea-Floyds 2:09.64 6
4 Hawkins, Karl 11 East Clarendon 2:11.33 5
5 Allen, Kyle 8 Blackville-Hilda 2:12.15 4
6 Crew, Brandon 10 Landrum 2:13.04 3
7 Griffin, Cory 10 Ninety-Six 2:13.50 2
8 Wise, Kevin 12 Johnsonville 2:17.97 1



FAST FORWARD TO COLLEGE

2004: Matthew Elliot finishes 20th at the D2 South Atlantic Conference Championships with a 29:02 8k.

http://tn.milesplit.us/meets/8930/results/19094


2005: Matthew Elliot finishes 7th at the D2 South Atlantic Conference Championships with a 27:03 8k.

http://tn.milesplit.us/meets/13989/results/29155


2006: Matthew Elliot finishes 8th at the D2 South Atlantic conference Championships with a 27:44 8k.

http://nc.milesplit.us/meets/20250/results/40313


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Then, yesterday, Matthew Elliot makes D1 nationals:

TALLAHASSEE, FL--Winthrop senior middle distance runner Matthew Elliott ran an NCAA National Championships qualifying time of 3:51.81 in the 1500 meters on Saturday at the NCAA East Regional at Florida State University.

His time placed him fourth in the final heat and qualified him for the NCAA National Championships which will be held June 11-14 at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa.

Elliott will join teammate Jason Williams in Des Moines as the duo becomes just the second and third track and field athletes to earn trips to the NCAA National Championships. Greene did it in both the Indoor and Outdoor Championships in 1994 in the 5,000 and 10,000 meters, respectively. Williams qualified on Friday with a high jump of 7-feet, 1-inch to finish third and set a new school record.

Elliott, a native of Green Sea, SC, and a transfer from Presbyterian College, qualified for the finals on Friday with a school-record time of 3:48.02 which was the seventh fastest time of the day and sent him into Saturday's finals.


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WTF????
dead poets society
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:21PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
WTF what? Good job to the kid. You must know him in order to post all of this so why the WTF?
uh_no
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:24PM - in reply to dead poets society Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
probably because OP got bumped out of nat'ls by this kid
he never gave up
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:26PM - in reply to dead poets society Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
sorry, I mean WTF in the best possible way, I'm just shocked. congratulations to matthew elliot! and, no, i don't know him at all, just happened to read he went to Presbyterian College and wondered how he ran there. Impressive improvement!
he never gave up
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:28PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
and also it is surprising. i've been brainwashed by letsrun to believe people shouldn't run in college unless they ran 4:09.8 miles at NON in high school, especially D1. awesome.
Off the Grid
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:30PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Unusual.....but not impossible.

Marcus O'Sullivan ran 4:08? when he finished school in Ireland. Spent a year as a sail maker - doing shots before work etc. Then he found out if he ran 3:47 he could get a ride to a US university. So 9 months later....thats what he ran.

Wheating has made even greater progress in this same time period.
Harry Kooter
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:32PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

he never gave up wrote:

2003, senior year of high school: Matthew Elliot WINS the 1A state title in the 1600 meters with a 4:48.98, and finishes third in 800 with a 2:09.64.




Am I reading this right? The guy won the mile and placed third in the 800 with a 4:49 and 2:10 at states? I don't think I believe that.
14&23
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:45PM - in reply to Harry Kooter Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Small school division
drugs
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:54PM - in reply to 14&23 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
well im hopeful that shit guys when they're young can continue to improve like this. good on ya man. inspirational. 27;04 is not thaaaaaaat bad a time anyway for 8 k cross
eeeeeessh
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:57PM - in reply to 14&23 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

14&23 wrote:

Small school division


Still, those times are really weak. Like i would think a good chunk of soccer players could run 2:07's off of soccer training. 2:09 is brutal for a win, which i suppose makes this all more impressive.
...cool
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 10:59PM - in reply to eeeeeessh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
so 2:09 800 in high school to 3:48 (2:03ish splits) - impressive!
orlyfool
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 11:09PM - in reply to ...cool Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
that's awesome. congrats to that kid, hopefully he can keep surprising people at nationals
Harry Kooter
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 11:16PM - in reply to eeeeeessh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

eeeeeessh wrote:

Still, those times are really weak. Like i would think a good chunk of soccer players could run 2:07's off of soccer training. 2:09 is brutal for a win, which i suppose makes this all more impressive.


I'm not ragging on this guy or anything--I was only a little faster in high school--but, yeah, I am amazed that these times would win any division in any state. 2:09 would have been the 9th or 10th fastest time on my high school team.

Anyway, that's not the point of the thread. It's always impressive to see a guy improve like that. It's nice to see a guy improve like that. Guys like this guy and pros like Brian Sell give hope to those of us who weren't sub 9 minute guys in high school.
4runner
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 11:22PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
People always forget how piss-poor most high school coaching is.
dead poets society
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/1/2008 11:22PM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I hear you. Shouldn't have speculated. Thanks for the info. He either found some untapped talent or worked his ass off. Probably both.
26mi235
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/2/2008 12:18AM - in reply to he never gave up Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
These marks are very mediocre for state champs, even for a small-school division. However, distance races, especially for those doubling (which it looks like a number did), might have resulted in slow, tactical races in the summer heat/humidity. What were the HS PRs; they might be in the 4:30/9:55 range.
whao wut
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/2/2008 12:37AM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
the kid might be on drugs....i mean he just came out of nowhere
goodness
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/2/2008 9:40AM - in reply to whao wut Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
it seems obvious to me the kid did not train much in high school. Why is it so shocking to see him improve with some conditioning and a good coach?
paul
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/2/2008 10:09AM - in reply to eeeeeessh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think a lot of soccer players might think that - but they probably couldnt.

A few summers ago me and my team-mates would be finishing our runs as the soccer team was holding their captains practice.

We always got talking and some of us ended up joining in their games - and then some of them said they'd come running with us.

First few mins they were fine and were even talking away. By the time we reached the half mile they were f****d. Some of them kept on and probably ended up doing 4 miles in just over 30 mins.

Long story short dont think many soccer players could jump onto a track and run 2.07's.
KevinM
RE: PIGS FLEW: 4:47 high school miler makes D1 nationals 6/2/2008 10:15AM - in reply to goodness Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think this has been mentioned, but just as noteworthy as Elliot's high school times is the fact that he got into the Regional meet based on the auto-qualifier from winning his conference, ran a personal best in prelims, and made nationals without ever hitting even the Regional Qualifying time mark.

Maybe this has happened in one of the previous Regional meets, but it's the first I've heard of it -- it's just the type of "perform on the day"/March Madness type of thing that the Regionals were designed to encourage. Good for Elliot. Great story.
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