Which country has decided to do life as usual and ignore COVID19 and what is the result?

Ggggg wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/amp/

Sweden kept business almost as usual. Nothing happened. Big surprise. Read this and figure out how stupid the rest of world is locking down healthy people

Only if letsrun posters looked at the numbers then posted. Sweden has a population of 10.23 million. Sweden as of now has 870 confirmed corona-19 virus deaths. U.S. has a population of 327.2 million. 18,316 confirmed U.S. corona-19 virus deaths.

If you allow me to round, Sweden is 1/32 the population of U.S. Multiply Sweden's 870 by 32. That is 27,840. Sweden is not a nation to copy. Please by a real man and apologize for your silly post.

Life as usual under coronavirus will mean death as usual.

your math teacher wrote:

Ggggg wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/amp/

Sweden kept business almost as usual. Nothing happened. Big surprise. Read this and figure out how stupid the rest of world is locking down healthy people

Only if letsrun posters looked at the numbers then posted. Sweden has a population of 10.23 million. Sweden as of now has 870 confirmed corona-19 virus deaths. U.S. has a population of 327.2 million. 18,316 confirmed U.S. corona-19 virus deaths.

If you allow me to round, Sweden is 1/32 the population of U.S. Multiply Sweden's 870 by 32. That is 27,840. Sweden is not a nation to copy. Please by a real man and apologize for your silly post.

Well obviously lock down would bring the numbers down, the question is how much .... If you look at the lack of economic damage and lack of debt that Sweden has thus far incurred relatively to the slightly higher death rate then i'm sure most people would have much preferred the Swedish option in the longer term ...

For the Swedish option not to work then it really has to spiral out of control (which could still happen) ..

870 corona-19 virus deaths from a population of 10.23 million is an out of control number. Do not be stubbornly ignorant.

your math teacher wrote:

Ggggg wrote:

For the Swedish option not to work then it really has to spiral out of control (which could still happen) ..

870 corona-19 virus deaths from a population of 10.23 million is an out of control number. Do not be stubbornly ignorant.

No Sweden’s death rate is not totally out of control. They are at 86 deaths per million. They are the #7 country, when looking at that stat. You can argue that Spain (342 death/million - 4X higher than Sweden’s), Italy (312/million), Belgium (260/million and most importantly 496 deaths yesterday alone in a country of 11 million - almost same size as Sweden. In one day they had more than half of the deaths that Sweden accumulated since the beginning), France (202 deaths/million) got out of control.

That being said, Spain and Italy are no longer spiralling out of control as the number of deaths per day is declining every day now.

It is expected that most countries will end up with approx 400 to 500 deaths per million (maybe less) so the rate of deaths in Sweden, although higher than Germany, Denmark and Austria right now, is still controlled.

Again, if you want to see a country that all of a sudden spiralled out of control, look at Belgium.

More importantly, can presently find a road race in Sweden or Belarus or any other country?

If I cannot. I would like to know which country was the last to host a road race and when.

You are mostly speaking for yourself broheam

Ggggg wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/amp/

Sweden kept business almost as usual. Nothing happened. Big surprise. Read this and figure out how stupid the rest of world is locking down healthy people

Sweden has already failed. There death per 1M pop is way worse than most countries sooooooo... it’s clear that this doesn’t work.

There is another factor which has the potential to further support the stricter measures. It is common for viruses to weaken shortly after outbreaks due to the fact that hosts carrying the stronger more deadly version can die quickly which means less exposure to others. If this happens fast enough while these measures stay in place then the broader population will be less at risk in the long run.

Trollminator wrote:

There is another factor which has the potential to further support the stricter measures. It is common for viruses to weaken shortly after outbreaks due to the fact that hosts carrying the stronger more deadly version can die quickly which means less exposure to others. If this happens fast enough while these measures stay in place then the broader population will be less at risk in the long run.

Interesting. If that proves true, then countries such as Canada, Finland, and Czech Republic may look like geniuses when this is all over.

However, I am looking for countries which did very little.

What did Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu... do?

Sweden has nearly 900 deaths so far and still increasing. With a population of 5 million - half that of Sweden - and a full lockdown, New Zealand has had only 4 deaths. What were we saying about the success of Sweden?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sweden has nearly 900 deaths so far and still increasing. With a population of 5 million - half that of Sweden - and a full lockdown, New Zealand has had only 4 deaths. What were we saying about the success of Sweden?

Sentinel Island did way better than New Zealand if you want to look at it that way.

There is another thread on Sweden. Here we are looking for countries who did very little and what the results are.

Obviously, since Sweden did less their numbers are higher now. That’s simply common sense.

The game is not over however.

I guess that we only know of Sweden and Belarus.

I was expecting more global knowledge here.

Found this result file. I see that they are still holding road races in Sweden. Limit of 5 participants (or is that coincidental)

http://www.bdfif.se/files/resultatlistor/Ljungskileterrngen_4_apr_2020_resultat.pdf

jhgbfvtg wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sweden has nearly 900 deaths so far and still increasing. With a population of 5 million - half that of Sweden - and a full lockdown, New Zealand has had only 4 deaths. What were we saying about the success of Sweden?

Sentinel Island did way better than New Zealand if you want to look at it that way.

There is another thread on Sweden. Here we are looking for countries who did very little and what the results are.

Obviously, since Sweden did less their numbers are higher now. That’s simply common sense.

The game is not over however.

I guess that we only know of Sweden and Belarus.

I was expecting more global knowledge here.

☝️ Well...I think we need to shift from Sweden and focus more on Belarus:

"Belarus has not closed its borders, introduced quarantine measures or asked people to follow social distancing guidelines."

*23* deaths (as of 4/11)

Population - 9.5 million

Over 65 - 15% (U.S. 16%, Sweden 20%)

Recent video of sports activities going on, people shopping & socializing:

Only 23 deaths so far compared to the 887 in Sweden. Maybe things will explode in Belarus and maybe they won't. But so far this illustrates that you don't have to lock down societies & cripple economies because of a virus that is hard on the elderly and those with pre-existing medical conditions.

Doesn't look good in Belarus if their President keeps this up. Their confirmed cases curve is among the steepest, growing 1.28x per day on average for the past week, and steeping to 1.33x for the past day. It's just hit them later than other countries because there has been less travel there from affected locations. They are only 11 days after hitting 100 cases. When Italy and Spain had a similar number of cases they had only had 52 deaths each. That's more than the 23 Belarus has officially now, but every country is missing counts of COVID-19 deaths (in slightly different ways), so it's roughly comparable.

jhgbfvtg wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sweden has nearly 900 deaths so far and still increasing. With a population of 5 million - half that of Sweden - and a full lockdown, New Zealand has had only 4 deaths. What were we saying about the success of Sweden?

Sentinel Island did way better than New Zealand if you want to look at it that way.

There is another thread on Sweden. Here we are looking for countries who did very little and what the results are.

Obviously, since Sweden did less their numbers are higher now. That’s simply common sense.

The game is not over however.

I guess that we only know of Sweden and Belarus.

I was expecting more global knowledge here.

What a stupid argument. Sentinel Island has a population of 400 or so. New Zealand is 5 million.

As for Belarus success - believe their figures if you choose.

Rockz wrote:

Well obviously lock down would bring the numbers down, the question is how much .... If you look at the lack of economic damage and lack of debt that Sweden has thus far incurred relatively to the slightly higher death rate then i'm sure most people would have much preferred the Swedish option in the longer term ...

For the Swedish option not to work then it really has to spiral out of control (which could still happen) ..

Uhh.. Sweden predicted to have similar unemployment and GDP contraction to other European countries.

So more deaths and same economic damage. Good try tho!

Good ol Belarus. The Trump bootlickers were cheering then and probably now.