zxcvzcxv wrote:
Deaths are not going to be a fraction of that. Almost 800 died today and are running at something like 20% growth per day. I hope that there are universal wise shutdowns for the next month to slow down growth in cases a great deal.
912 to be exact.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Everyone understands that Trump can not serve one additional day and that The speaker of the house becomes president the day after his term ends?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
There is talk about the election being all mail in votes and I don't see why it can't be done online.
It's up to each state how they conduct their election and how they distribute their electoral votes.
You could have a mix of the above.
I believe security for online voting could be done since we trust the internet with transactions for all of our money.
Though, we can look for fraudulent transactions of our individual bank accounts and report them.
We have no idea how our votes are counted when submitted online or even put on paper in a box.
Any kind of anonymous voting requires trust of the election workers and officials.
I am very curious to see how Florida handles this.
It's the biggest swing state and the margins are often razor thin.
Some of their counties have issues in normal years.
It could all come down to who wins Florida again.
W Bush got 500 more votes than Gore. The percent victory was 48.85% to 48.84%.
Throw a result like that on top of a huge portion of mail in votes that may not be tallied for weeks after the election.
One way or another, each state will have to figure out how to hold their election for November 3rd.
UsedToBeFast wrote:
The writing is on the wall. It will be near impossible for candidates to campaign, for the conventions to be held, etc. the olympics got moved to 2021, why not the election? I’m predicting by mid-June the announcement will be made.
It is fools and cowards like you who did not stand up to Hitler after 1933.
Trump will be the first public official to suggest that this is a good idea.
TheNarcissistMind wrote:
Trump will be the first public official to suggest that this is a good idea.
He would have suggested it by now if it was a good idea.
His term ends when it ends. That's set in stone, there is a contingency for if an election doesn't take place and it all ends with (skipping many steps) with Senator Patrick Leahy becoming president in the interim.
That's what would happen if all federal elections were cancelled anyway.
UsedToBeFast wrote:
The writing is on the wall. It will be near impossible for candidates to campaign, for the conventions to be held, etc. the olympics got moved to 2021, why not the election? I’m predicting by mid-June the announcement will be made.
Trump will suggest this idea. Many Republicans will love it because their guy stays president for another year. Democrats will go along with it because of their intense fear of the virus. This becomes a very convenient tactic for presidents in the future to get an extra year or two.
NPR story today talked about Governor Cuomo's polling numbers going up among both democrats and republicans after watching his daily press conference while Biden's is not being helped by staying home and doing his in home videos. The story said some democrats were questioning why Cuomo is not their 2020 presidential candidate. I have nothing against the elderly but couldn't the democrats come up with someone younger or at least acts as if he/she is younger? I don't like how Trump acts or more specifically much of what his says that did not come from the experts but he does not look his age when talking on camera.
The Washington task force press conferences and turned into a campaign event for Trump to say all the great things he claims to have done with the backing of big business. I only really turn in to listen to everyone who follows after Trump. Biden is at a big disadvantage given his poor performance on his home videos and little air time compared to Trump.
Fentrekker wrote:
UsedToBeFast wrote:
The writing is on the wall. It will be near impossible for candidates to campaign, for the conventions to be held, etc. the olympics got moved to 2021, why not the election? I’m predicting by mid-June the announcement will be made.
It is fools and cowards like you who did not stand up to Hitler after 1933.
That’s quite a reach there.
UsedToBeFast wrote:
Fentrekker wrote:
It is fools and cowards like you who did not stand up to Hitler after 1933.
That’s quite a reach there.
Not for those of us who choose to read. Hitler did not take power. He was elected and then the state assented to his assumption of dictatorial power. If you think postponing the general election for the first time in American history is not a step along a similar road, you are a fool.
Fentrekker wrote:
UsedToBeFast wrote:
That’s quite a reach there.
Not for those of us who choose to read. Hitler did not take power. He was elected and then the state assented to his assumption of dictatorial power. If you think postponing the general election for the first time in American history is not a step along a similar road, you are a fool.
Absolutely agreed. Taking advantage of National emergencies is a tried and true excuse tyrants use to stay in power or gain more power. If Democrats really believe Trump is as much a power hungry megalomaniac they say he is they will want to do everything in their power to have the next presidential election as scheduled and to have everyone go to the polls as they would have done otherwise.
Hardloper wrote:
Definitely cancelled. It would be irresponsible to hold an election while people are locked down and quarantined. We should also not force vulnerable octogenarians like Scranton Joe to hold campaign rallies that might exceed 10 people against the CDC's guidance.
Elections aren't til November. Odds of us being locked down that long are about zero. The national election cycle doesn't really start til August.
The only reason to postpone elections is that trump doesn't want to run for reelection as the president who lead us from 5% unemployment to 20% and who ended an 10 year bull market. Those aren't the numbers that get anyone reelected. See what happened to bush senior with a much more mild recession.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Definitely cancelled. It would be irresponsible to hold an election while people are locked down and quarantined. We should also not force vulnerable octogenarians like Scranton Joe to hold campaign rallies that might exceed 10 people against the CDC's guidance.
Elections aren't til November. Odds of us being locked down that long are about zero. The national election cycle doesn't really start til August.
The only reason to postpone elections is that trump doesn't want to run for reelection as the president who lead us from 5% unemployment to 20% and who ended an 10 year bull market. Those aren't the numbers that get anyone reelected. See what happened to bush senior with a much more mild recession.
Some are saying we can expect the Corona virus to come back with vengeance next fall & winter (flu season) worse than it is now. Since the national government, most local governments and even most private citizens supported the current stay-at-home order and even say we should further restrict our freedoms in order to curtail COVID-19 I don’t see why the same reaction wouldn’t be expected the next go around.
And if you think Trump will not run for reelection I’ll say you’re insane. This guy is a megalomaniac who loves power and hates even the appearance of anything but absolute victory.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Elections aren't til November. Odds of us being locked down that long are about zero. The national election cycle doesn't really start til August.
The only reason to postpone elections is that trump doesn't want to run for reelection as the president who lead us from 5% unemployment to 20% and who ended an 10 year bull market. Those aren't the numbers that get anyone reelected. See what happened to bush senior with a much more mild recession.
Some are saying we can expect the Corona virus to come back with vengeance next fall & winter (flu season) worse than it is now. Since the national government, most local governments and even most private citizens supported the current stay-at-home order and even say we should further restrict our freedoms in order to curtail COVID-19 I don’t see why the same reaction wouldn’t be expected the next go around.
And if you think Trump will not run for reelection I’ll say you’re insane. This guy is a megalomaniac who loves power and hates even the appearance of anything but absolute victory.
He will run. I am suggesting the odds of winning when we are suffering one of the worst recessions every that started under his watch are very low. Right or wrong the buck stops with the guy in charge.
I am sure there will be a comeback. Odds are though it will not be that early in the flu season. And it is likely to be a lot less of an issue when 50% plus of us have already been infected. Obviously we are all guessing about the future. I just sort of doubt it will be enough to postpone elections
Not A Trump Fan wrote:
NPR story today talked about Governor Cuomo's polling numbers going up among both democrats and republicans after watching his daily press conference while Biden's is not being helped by staying home and doing his in home videos. The story said some democrats were questioning why Cuomo is not their 2020 presidential candidate. I have nothing against the elderly but couldn't the democrats come up with someone younger or at least acts as if he/she is younger? I don't like how Trump acts or more specifically much of what his says that did not come from the experts but he does not look his age when talking on camera.
Trump acts like just about every other 73 year old man. You get the ramblings and blaming of others. And some delusions of grandeur. The orange spray tan doesn't really make you look young but it does hide some skin flaws. And we end up talking about it instead.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Yeah... what could possibly go wrong?
We aren't talking about on App in Idaho.
Except we ARE talking about an app in Idaho, and every other state. Technology can and will fail spectacularly when you need it most and if the Iowa debacle were to happen in a nationwide election we are F***ED.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
He will run. I am suggesting the odds of winning when we are suffering one of the worst recessions every that started under his watch are very low. Right or wrong the buck stops with the guy in charge.
Why assume that? His approval is going higher than ever, according to the 538 tracker.
Cuomo's state is getting disproportionally crushed and yet he is also more popular than ever.
Hardloper wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
We aren't talking about on App in Idaho.
Except we ARE talking about an app in Idaho, and every other state. Technology can and will fail spectacularly when you need it most and if the Iowa debacle were to happen in a nationwide election we are F***ED.
Remember how well the government handled healthcare.gov?
Hardloper wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
He will run. I am suggesting the odds of winning when we are suffering one of the worst recessions every that started under his watch are very low. Right or wrong the buck stops with the guy in charge.
Why assume that? His approval is going higher than ever, according to the 538 tracker.
Cuomo's state is getting disproportionally crushed and yet he is also more popular than ever.
Watch what happens when the threat is gone and all that is left is the crushing unemployment and body bags. Right now we are in the pull together stage. When the threat goes away we go to the blame game. Think about how it will look when there are 200k bodies and voice overs of trump talking about how it is hoax and no big deal. Nothing will change the mind of the 30% of true believers on either side. It is that middle 40%.
Oregon votes all by mail. If we wanted to we could do this across the country. Republicans have publically said this would hurt them. They know their best way to win is voter surpression, and I'm not even talking about Trump.