The odd young person is dying but I hear it’s often after weaning from a ventilator they get cardiac arrhythmias V tach/fib from viral myocarditis.
The odd young person is dying but I hear it’s often after weaning from a ventilator they get cardiac arrhythmias V tach/fib from viral myocarditis.
Hey Kitty Girl wrote:
rg2 wrote:
I like how most rational humans are realizing how the media has overblown this, and it’s really only the elderly and those with health conditions that should be worried. Now I have seen more stories in the media trying to get you believe the young are vulnerable too. Even if they do have pre existing conditions, they aren’t going to Put that into headlines. It goes against their propaganda. #truth
Cute post.
I have friends in NYC who have it, 6 of them, all men ranging from 30-38. All very fit, only one smoker.
Two of them have barely noticeable symptoms, no fever. (36 and 38) They wouldn't qualify as asymptomatic but extremely mildly symptomatic (one said if it weren't for knowing it was COVID 19, he would have chalked it up to being a minor cold and would have still gone to work and to the gym.)
Two of them were out of commission for a week or so, bad dry cough, chest pains, high fever. But getting better and will likely be fine. (30, the smoker, and 36.)
Two others are being hospitalized. One is a marathon runner, the other is very fit. They have both been on ventilators saying this is by far the worst illness they've ever experienced, they have barely any strength to move (one of them stated it was 5 steps to the toilet and he could barely make it) and are likely to suffer from some lung damage for a bit of time. (38 and 34.)
NONE of these men are obese or even overweight. All are very fit, only one is a smoker. I'm not sure about diabetes but I know 3 of them are not.
Perhaps the media has overblown this.
However in my own personal circle, it has proven to be random even amongst a healthy group of men. I wasn't scared of it before (I'm mid 30s, in great shape) but now, after seeing it first hand amongst people I know, I damn well do not want to get it in case I am not one of those asymptomatic cases.
Perhaps the 2 who were affected the most have a type A blood type, that’s a factor too and is somewhat of a preexisting condition when it comes to COVID-19.
Piano_Man87 wrote:
Look at this case.
Young, otherwise healthy people die all the time of common ailments and no one bats an eye.
https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/manitoba-woman-24-dead-days-after-getting-sick-with-the-flu-husband-1.4768440I know that Coronavirus is a terrible thing, and is worse than the flu, but it really seems now like everyone in society thought they were guaranteed living to 80 until the coronavirus arrived.
How do you know this was the flu? Maybe it was misdiagnosed COVID-19?
Bad Parker, bad wrote:
Obesity
Diabete
Cardio vascular diseases
Smoker
There's one of these in my office. He's 60 something, and all of the above. Sounds like death on the best of days, but still here. Still here.
This guy gets it. A lot of people don't have a medical/clinical condition, like most of the young ones that die from the virus have, but are living extremely unhealthy lives.
Someone who is - obese, smoker, only eats chips and popcorn and drinks coke and beer, video-game addict might have never been classified as "sick/medical case", but has a similar immune system to an 80-year old. If this people get infected, they are at high risk, no matter what age. We are runners and believe everyone is out there exercising all day long, sleeping 8 hours a day, eating healthy but the reality, especially in the USA, is different. Just go outside and see how many fast-food stores you can find, there are actually people frequenting them - and a lot, often multiple times a day!
It was flu if she tested positive. Having both flu and COVID is theoretically possible but unlikely. I see young healthy people develop ARDS from flu and sometimes die in our ICU not infrequently. We’ve come to accept to that as part of seasonal flu outbreaks, and it doesn’t usually generate publicity. In time we’ll accept that is part of COVID also. However COVID is wreaking havoc on seniors and people w lung disease.
As an aside, NJ is quite affluent but does not have good hospitals. However if you’re in the South you can go to Philly and north you go to NYC, at least you used to before COViD.
Looks like his death was due to pneumonia. He also had the virus which didn't help but the pnu came first per article.
Randmdude wrote:
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-outbreak-in-nj-surges-to-at-least-742-cases-with-6-deaths-318-new-positive-tests-announced.htmlNo underlying health conditions as it seems. This is crazy.
Keep in mind, NJ is ranked #1 in terms of medical care in the country (best hospitals, etc).
It's going to get a lot worse.
What?????
#1 Healthcare?????
I ain't going to Jersey for any healthcare.
Good luck with that!!!!
rg2 wrote:
I like how most rational humans are realizing how the media has overblown this, and it’s really only the elderly and those with health conditions that should be worried. Now I have seen more stories in the media trying to get you believe the young are vulnerable too. Even if they do have pre existing conditions, they aren’t going to Put that into headlines. It goes against their propaganda. #truth
What about when you have a grabber and need a bed in ICU but there aren't any because they're all taken up by Corona patients. You might become even more brain dead than you already seem to be.
Dubyah wrote:
The odd young person is dying but I hear it’s often after weaning from a ventilator they get cardiac arrhythmias V tach/fib from viral myocarditis.
A relative of Joseph Merrick?
clovid wrote:
Looks like his death was due to pneumonia. He also had the virus which didn't help but the pnu came first per article.
By your reasoning, no one has died due to the virus.
It's like saying one is killed by gunshot wound, not by the person that pulled the trigger.
Having said that, at the individual level, the pneumonia may well come from something else (other viruses, or bacterials, or even non-infectious). At the population level, the myriads of different causes of death seems to be aggravated by coronavirus. Right or wrong, the pressure is strong enough to force Trump to swallow his own vomit and changed course.
Coronation Street wrote:
clovid wrote:
Looks like his death was due to pneumonia. He also had the virus which didn't help but the pnu came first per article.
By your reasoning, no one has died due to the virus.
It's like saying one is killed by gunshot wound, not by the person that pulled the trigger.
Having said that, at the individual level, the pneumonia may well come from something else (other viruses, or bacterials, or even non-infectious). At the population level, the myriads of different causes of death seems to be aggravated by coronavirus. Right or wrong, the pressure is strong enough to force Trump to swallow his own vomit and changed course.
The Spanish flu deaths, which are so often cited here by some of the fearmongers, was bacterial. If they had antibiotics back in the 1918's, many lives would have been saved.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic/amp/The weak die and the strong resistant live; the universe is pruning the herd this spring.
In Recovery wrote:
The weak die and the strong resistant live; the universe is pruning the herd this spring.
Or maybe I should’ve said culling the herd.
In Recovery wrote:
In Recovery wrote:
The weak die and the strong resistant live; the universe is pruning the herd this spring.
Or maybe I should’ve said culling the herd.
No you should have said we all die, period. So quit being smug Strongy McStrongman.
johnny5 wrote:
In Recovery wrote:
Or maybe I should’ve said culling the herd.
No you should have said we all die, period. So quit being smug Strongy McStrongman.
At this current time some (a few ) will pass on/die from this virus..most (the vast majority) will live. Yes, we all die but maybe not this year or maybe not next year.
Randmdude wrote:
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-outbreak-in-nj-surges-to-at-least-742-cases-with-6-deaths-318-new-positive-tests-announced.htmlNo underlying health conditions as it seems. This is crazy.
Keep in mind, NJ is ranked #1 in terms of medical care in the country (best hospitals, etc).
It's going to get a lot worse.
It is not crazy. While that 30 year old died in NJ, approximately 100-200 other people died from other causes on that same day in NJ and no one mentioned any of those poor souls.
Middle Ground wrote:
rg2 wrote:
I like how most rational humans are realizing how the media has overblown this, and it’s really only the elderly and those with health conditions that should be worried. Now I have seen more stories in the media trying to get you believe the young are vulnerable too. Even if they do have pre existing conditions, they aren’t going to Put that into headlines. It goes against their propaganda. #truth
How much slicing do you have to do to keep convincing yourself not to care. "Well, it only applies to X and Y and Z people, so I don't care." What percentage of society needs to be "likely" to die from this for you to care?
I have a cousin who has had asthma her whole life who is now suffering from this illness. She isn't going to die, I hope, but she is in rough shape. Should I not consider her worthy of compassion because she had asthma, a "health condition"? Yes, she is vulnerable, along with a lot of other people, and that's the point. I might get sick, but even if I never do, my actions can affect others who will.
Yep. Sure is a lot of "no true healthy person has died of this" going around.
In Recovery wrote:
johnny5 wrote:
No you should have said we all die, period. So quit being smug Strongy McStrongman.
At this current time some (a few ) will pass on/die from this virus..most (the vast majority) will live. Yes, we all die but maybe not this year or maybe not next year.
Namaste.