Let's say tomorrow Nico Young were to perform a 20-min FTP test on the bike. What would his result be? Could he break 3 W/kg? Perhaps even hit 4 W/kg?
Kid's an aerobic monster.
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Kid went from getting beaten frequently to aerobic monster almost overnight. 🙄
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TheTortoise wrote:
Kid went from getting beaten frequently to aerobic monster almost overnight. 🙄
You mean the historically good high schooler became a historically good college runner??!! Someone stop the presses!!!! This is nuts!
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TheTortoise wrote:
Kid went from getting beaten frequently to aerobic monster almost overnight. 🙄
That's just how collegiate training works. Put in 2-3 years of hard work so that you can eventually dominate as a junior or senior. There is just too much of a physical and mental gap between a true freshman and a senior.
The only thing that really happened is that he grew up.
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There's more to an FTP test than aerobic strength.
Runners don't necessarily transfer well instantly into cycling. The quads will give in sooner than you think.
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aidjxjJ wrote:
TheTortoise wrote:
Kid went from getting beaten frequently to aerobic monster almost overnight. 🙄
You mean the historically good high schooler became a historically good college runner??!! Someone stop the presses!!!! This is nuts!
We'll see if it continues once he's being tested regularly because he hasn't been tested by USADA even once last year or this year. Not once during the time he's gone through this transformation. No wonder WADA had a crack at US athletes who get to develop in the NCAA without proper drug testing.
WADA President Witold Banka said that when it comes to anti-doping, U.S. athletes are some of the least tested in the world and that USADA has used the contamination explanation to clear Americans of positive tests."Just to paint a picture of some inconsistent rule implementation in the U.S. 90% of American athletes, those in the professional leagues and college sport do not compete under the world anti-doping code."1036 -
I am a mediocre runner (1:30 half in my mid 30’s) and hit 4+ when I trained somewhat regularly on the bike and 3 is like the lowest level that someone who actually cycles and is healthy male should achieve. I would imagine any elite runner could hit 3+ with no training and 4 to 5 within 1 to 3 months
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TheTortoise wrote:
aidjxjJ wrote:
You mean the historically good high schooler became a historically good college runner??!! Someone stop the presses!!!! This is nuts!
We'll see if it continues once he's being tested regularly because he hasn't been tested by USADA even once last year or this year. Not once during the time he's gone through this transformation. No wonder WADA had a crack at US athletes who get to develop in the NCAA without proper drug testing.
WADA President Witold Banka said that when it comes to anti-doping, U.S. athletes are some of the least tested in the world and that USADA has used the contamination explanation to clear Americans of positive tests."Just to paint a picture of some inconsistent rule implementation in the U.S. 90% of American athletes, those in the professional leagues and college sport do not compete under the world anti-doping code."He was tested 3x in the span of 1 week after winning 2 NCAA titles and being runner-up at the TEN.
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Weird question wrote:
I am a mediocre runner (1:30 half in my mid 30’s) and hit 4+ when I trained somewhat regularly on the bike and 3 is like the lowest level that someone who actually cycles and is healthy male should achieve. I would imagine any elite runner could hit 3+ with no training and 4 to 5 within 1 to 3 months
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What are you smoking? As was pointed out, there is a lot more than being an "aerobic monster" to be able to get that kind of power output. I would bet that very few elite runners could get to 4-5 w/kg within "1 to 3 months."
Are you the same guy that started a thread here a bit ago claiming to be at 5+ w/kg on his indoor trainer and thinking that you could probably join the pro peloton? Get a different power meter. Yours is probably broken.
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The only example of a high end runner (sub 4 miler pre super shoes) turning into a successful pro cyclist (won a TdF stage, won other tours) is Mike Woods.
It's not as easy to get a correlation as you think.
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This isn't how it works.
You might as well ask what he can bench press (approx. 85 pounds).
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aidjxjJ wrote:
TheTortoise wrote:
Kid went from getting beaten frequently to aerobic monster almost overnight. 🙄
You mean the historically good high schooler became a historically good college runner??!! Someone stop the presses!!!! This is nuts!
You can’t run a 12:57 5000 with only a 7:37 3000
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Doped to the gills wrote:
aidjxjJ wrote:
You mean the historically good high schooler became a historically good college runner??!! Someone stop the presses!!!! This is nuts!
You can’t run a 12:57 5000 with only a 7:37 3000
He has pb's of 1:47 & 3:34. More than enough speed to break 13.
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Cat 1 cyclist wrote:
Weird question wrote:
I am a mediocre runner (1:30 half in my mid 30’s) and hit 4+ when I trained somewhat regularly on the bike and 3 is like the lowest level that someone who actually cycles and is healthy male should achieve. I would imagine any elite runner could hit 3+ with no training and 4 to 5 within 1 to 3 months
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What are you smoking? As was pointed out, there is a lot more than being an "aerobic monster" to be able to get that kind of power output. I would bet that very few elite runners could get to 4-5 w/kg within "1 to 3 months."
Are you the same guy that started a thread here a bit ago claiming to be at 5+ w/kg on his indoor trainer and thinking that you could probably join the pro peloton? Get a different power meter. Yours is probably broken.
Any healthy male can be a category 3 rider with zero training and run sub-15 within 3 years of 5k training.
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Olympic triathletes who can do 28min open 10k are at 5w/kg+
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Probably not. Until you bike consistently, it's hard to push it for long on the bike even if you are a cardiovascular monster. You just don't have the muscle power.
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Bike test is not equal to running economy. This is a test for cyclists
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Velo Chad wrote:
Let's say tomorrow Nico Young were to perform a 20-min FTP test on the bike. What would his result be? Could he break 3 W/kg? Perhaps even hit 4 W/kg?
Kid's an aerobic monster.
y'all have lost your minds if you think nico would be less than 4 w/kg for 20-min on a bike
anyway, nico is a pure runner, it's the twins that have real cycling potential
i'd bet on the twins being 5% either way of 6w/kg for 20' within 1 year of taking to it seriously
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coach ewe wrote:
Velo Chad wrote:
Let's say tomorrow Nico Young were to perform a 20-min FTP test on the bike. What would his result be? Could he break 3 W/kg? Perhaps even hit 4 W/kg?
Kid's an aerobic monster.
y'all have lost your minds if you think nico would be less than 4 w/kg for 20-min on a bike
anyway, nico is a pure runner, it's the twins that have real cycling potential
i'd bet on the twins being 5% either way of 6w/kg for 20' within 1 year of taking to it seriously
If Joe Klecker can’t even break 4 W/kg after almost 75 rides what makes you think Nico of all people can?
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Kea wrote:
TheTortoise wrote:
We'll see if it continues once he's being tested regularly because he hasn't been tested by USADA even once last year or this year. Not once during the time he's gone through this transformation. No wonder WADA had a crack at US athletes who get to develop in the NCAA without proper drug testing.
He was tested 3x in the span of 1 week after winning 2 NCAA titles and being runner-up at the TEN.
He would've been tested twice at NCAAs in competition because of his titles and once at TEN also in competition. Out of competition testing is severely lacking with, as I've already said, him being tested a total of zero times by USADA during 2023 and 2024 when he's having a major breakthrough. Even after this breakthrough USADA haven't gotten off their ass to test him out of competition.
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