Disturbing: NCAA champ and Olympian Erin Aldrich says coach John Rembao penetrated her on a flight when she was 18

grossman wrote:

^ there's been rumors about this guy for years. a lot of people know he's a creep.

Is that why the NCAA was named in the lawsuit?

You know he started dating his wife when he was her coach too. Crazy that he’s been coaching high school kids the last few years.

Oh? Do tell.

The only part of the complaint that I read was Part VI, "Tolling of the Statute of Limitations." I think that part is extremely weak as to each of the three proposed class representatives. I don't know why so many plaintiffs' attorneys in putative class actions use proposed class representatives with such deeply flawed cases. Since they are apparently seeking an absurdly broad plaintiff class of athletes who were in NCAA competition as far back as 1992, perhaps they wanted class representatives from those earlier years, but those proposed class representatives' should get bumped early in the proceedings, and even if they don't, the tolling arguments of the proposed class reps should not generally apply to other members of the putative class.

it wouldn't surprise me if this putative class complaint was rushed to court shortly after pertinent allegations against the coach were made by SafeSport. That's very common when a number of class action attorneys and firms are eyeing the same legal theories against the same defendants, and they're all competiing against one another to be the first filer. In those cases, it's not uncommon to sign up plaintiffs with badly flawed cases, with the idea of adding or substitutig in other plaintiffs later on. But no matter who ends as a class rep, the statute of limitations is a deservedly proper hurdle for the putative class to get over.

I hope you are never on a jury. Presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty are FUNDAMENTAL to our system. I surely wouldn't want you on a jury as you've already judged him guilty.

Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children, not to teenagers. That is hebephilia. Inappropriate, but there is a definite distinction. Most people are mentally lazy, however, like yourself and attribute pedophilia to everything & anyone.

Thanks for the link to the complaint. There was some crazy allegations in there. So with Erin Aldrich, he was making out with her in her dorm room and the roommate came in. He hid in the closet and she found him and reported it to the authorities. The AD became aware of it and yet he got another college job:

the complaint says on page 37-38:

In May 1997, Arizona’s Athletic Director pulled Ms. Aldrich into a conference

room with her parents. He told her that Coach Rembao was leaving Arizona and going to the

University of Texas at Austin. The Athletic Director asked that Ms. Aldrich stay at Arizona and

play her sophomore year of volleyball. He told her that, if she was unhappy, Arizona would then

release her with full eligibility.

Did Arizona tell UT? Looks like there was some institutional liability here.

I guess even if they did tell UT, they may not have not hired him. Remember, Bev kearney had a relationship with one of her athletes herself.

Javman wrote:

I hope you are never on a jury. Presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty are FUNDAMENTAL to our system. I surely wouldn't want you on a jury as you've already judged him guilty.

Very true, however studies have shown that only 2%- about 6/7% of sexual abuse cases are false accusations/lies. So while it is innocent until proven guilty we also have this notion that we should BELIEVE those who come forward with sexual assault allegations.

The innocent until proven guilty standard is only in the eyes of the law in terms of punishment/sentencing/damages. People can have assumptions about those before cases are heard and tried, and in cases like these we, again, should believe those who come forward about sexual assault.

Seattle Flu wrote:

Jeez, are these coaches and team physicians no better than Catholic priests? Just sickening to have this garbage coming out every week now.

Few coaches of young adults and kids do it for purely altruistic reasons. Most of them are perverts who simply prey on the young and impressionable. And young people who are trying to get their foot in the door are more easy to manipulate than older seasoned adults.

Pervert coaches exploit the uncertainty and the aspirations of young athletes who feel that their relationship and standing with the coach is tantamount to their advancement in the sport. Also exploit naivety and undeveloped self esteem that young people have who are less sure of themselves than older folks.

Noticeably missing from the testimony in the report is the women asking no him to stop. It is literally not mentioned at all.

Am I wrong in that if somebody is doing something that is not welcome or undesired, the first act should be to ask or demand the offender to stop?

In the report, Aldrich said that she believes the attention given to her diet caused infertility issues. It is my understanding that Aldrich has a family in recent years and played professional volleyball in Europe throughout the 2000's, post collegiate years. She also followed this coach to UT after they had started a sexual relationship.

I am all for taking allegations seriously. But there are a lot of holes in this report.

LetsBelieveWomen2020 wrote:

Very true, however studies have shown that only 2%- about 6/7% of sexual abuse cases are false accusations/lies.

What studies? What methodology did they use? How would you even calculate that? There are false allegations that stick and never get overturned. Seems like a stat people trot out to support the BS "listen and believe" narrative.

Thanks for the link to the complaint. There was some crazy allegations in there.

So with Erin Aldrich, he was making out with her in her dorm room and the roommate came in. He hid in the closet and she found him and reported it to the authorities. The AD became aware of it and yet he got another college job:

Did Arizona tell UT? Looks like there was some institutional liability here.

I guess even if they did tell UT, they may not have not hired him. Remember, Bev kearney had a relationship with one of her athletes herself.[/quote]

Remember, Bev Kearney got a large settlement from UT.

Javman wrote:

I hope you are never on a jury. Presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty are FUNDAMENTAL to our system. I surely wouldn't want you on a jury as you've already judged him guilty.

Nope. There's no presumption of non-liability or non-fault in the civil arena. And you don't have to be "proven" "guilty," the preponderance being the goal in making a liability showing.

keep in mind, the lawyer slant wrote:

Noticeably missing from the testimony in the report is the women asking no him to stop. It is literally not mentioned at all.

Noticeably missing from your slam dunk analysis esquire is that whole "abuse of power" thing.

Harv just got 23 pinned on him... and they weren't 17 year olds.

dogscalder wrote:

Javman wrote:

I hope you are never on a jury. Presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty are FUNDAMENTAL to our system. I surely wouldn't want you on a jury as you've already judged him guilty.

Nope. There's no presumption of non-liability or non-fault in the civil arena. And you don't have to be "proven" "guilty," the preponderance being the goal in making a liability showing.

I think that most anybody in the current work force knows that a supervisor (coach, teacher, etc) in a superior position has no business messing around with an underlying. If you aren’t aware of that, you better wake up. You can’t use your power position to hit on someone you supervise. Good grief, we have this workshop every year.

messi wrote:

grossman wrote:

^ there's been rumors about this guy for years. a lot of people know he's a creep.

Is that why the NCAA was named in the lawsuit?

No. That's Lieff Cabraser wanting to get paid.

I read the entire complaint. While I completely agree that on the basis of the complaint that he appears to be a creepy dude. Can someone please state what he did that was illegal?