10km Olympic Team - Who you got?

He's not "a recent Kenyan import".

Ryan Hall

Dathan Ritz

Alan Webb

rupp is our only hope. given that he ran 20 x 60 second 400 repeats the day after his 1/2 it seems like he should try it if he can without damaging his marathon training. in the last olympics he finished 5th in the 10k and then got a bronze in only his second marathon. for the marathon he will be at his prime age, marathon experience, and fitness. the question i am wondering now is: how does he train to beat kipchoge and bekele? i have no idea. what does he lack? it is certainly not speed as i think on a track he is faster than both of them in a 3k (he missed bekele's 2 mile world record by a few seconds when bekele was in his prime on the track and kipchoge never was as fast as rupp). i think all those other 2:03 and 2:04 runners are not in rupp's class in a non paced race and none of them have near his 10k time unless kipchoge takes it our fast.

South Africa Res wrote:

So my early early picks,

Lomong, Korir, True

Sisson, Huddle, Marielle Hall

Who you got?

Hall just got beat by Gwen in 5,000, according this board that means she should quit running forever.

Infeld ran well, I'd think she's going to be in the mix.

Fairly good synopsis. Though, if Fraser decides to move up to the 10 and infeld is healthy, it could upset the apple cart entirely.

geographical geoff wrote:

Hall just got beat by Gwen in 5,000, according this board that means she should quit running forever.

Pacing a race as the rabbit and jogging into the finish is not the same as losing.

Lomong, Mead, Kipchirchir

Infeld, Huddle, M Hall

Kipchoge was much better than him on the track (7:27 and 12:46 vs 7:30 and 12:58), as was Bekele. Barring disaster, Rupp has no chance of beating either of them. Another bronze would be a great result.

sorry. what i meant is given his track workouts rupp is probably fast now than both of them . i did not realize kipchoge ran that fast.

older runner wrote:

sorry. what i meant is given his track workouts rupp is probably fast now than both of them . i did not realize kipchoge ran that fast.

Oh I see what you're saying. In that case I'm inclined to agree with you, though I still don't think Rupp has much chance against them. If he's somehow near them at the end then I'm sure he can produce a strong finish, I just don't see him hanging on that long.

breit leit wrote:

He's not "a recent Kenyan import".

He’s also not Kenyan

Olympic Standards Needed wrote:

USATF may require them to actually run the race to prevent them from skipping it for a free ride and trying to double up on the 5k, but they are the only three that would go.

In addition to your other confusions, you're confused about procedures that have applied to wild card holders, not to mere auto standard holders. A double error, in fact, because wild cards only apply to World Athletics champs, not to Olympics.

Given that the 10000m only has a final, anyone wishing to make the team will have to toe the Trials start and cross the finish. That's a lock.

Perhaps you will recall Ritz limping to a last place Trials finish in 2004 and ultimately going to Athens.

Erassa

tally wrote:

Olympic Standards Needed wrote:

USATF may require them to actually run the race to prevent them from skipping it for a free ride and trying to double up on the 5k, but they are the only three that would go.

In addition to your other confusions, you're confused about procedures that have applied to wild card holders, not to mere auto standard holders. A double error, in fact, because wild cards only apply to World Athletics champs, not to Olympics.

Given that the 10000m only has a final, anyone wishing to make the team will have to toe the Trials start and cross the finish. That's a lock.

Perhaps you will recall Ritz limping to a last place Trials finish in 2004 and ultimately going to Athens.

I'm not confused about anything. I know the past procedures, and I know the new procedures.

To someone else that posted asking about the world rankings -- World Athletics started a world rankings process in 2019. You can find them on World Athletics website. They are determined by awarding points to a track and field result and there are bonus points if the competitions is a certain level of competition and they place well in that competition. For sprints/jumps/throws they average the best 5 or so performances, and that result is your score used in the world ranking. For 5k it's your best 3 events, 10k it's top 2... The time window for performances is 18 months. In most events, the performances slowly decrease in value if they aren't from this season. 10k performances do not decrease in value. How World Athletics wants people to qualify is by filling out the field using the world rankings descending order. So in the 10k there would be either 24 or 27 athletes. They want to go down this descending order, but only accepting the top 3 athletes declared from each country, until the field is filled out. First they will accept the people with the 27:28 automatic standard, but likely they will be ranked high enough anyway. Because countries like Kenya have many of the top runners but can only send 3 athletes, someone that might have two 27:40/27:50 performances will likely qualify qualify because they are ranked high enough. If USATF ignores the world rankings, which it seems they are planning on doing this, then if we have three athletes with the 27:28 and they finish 1, 2, 4 those athletes will be selected by USATF to represent us. Even though the person finishing 3rd could potentially be ranked high enough to qualify.

Example: look at the current world rankings. 27th after limiting 3 per country is 1155 points. We have currently 6 athletes that are ranked high enough to make that top 27 cutoff even though we only have 2 athletes with the 'auto standard', the 'auto standard' that most of the world won't be using. The 6 athletes are Lopez, Shadrack, Chelimo, Korir, Erassa, and True.

If USATF decides to only use the auto standard as a qualifier, then True could place top 3 at the moment and technically be fast enough to qualify for the olympics based on the World Athletics qualifying procedures, but USATF will select the athlete behind him that has the auto-standard.

5k - Athing Mu, Dathan Ritzenhein, Robert Johnson

10k - Noah Lyles, Sara Hall, Noah Droddy

NC Runner 34 wrote:

Lomong, Mead, Kipchirchir

Infeld, Huddle, M Hall

Men: Kenyan/African 1, 2, 3

Women: Huddle, Sisson, Infeld.

The Jericho Mile wrote:

Black Cactus

Chelimo

Wamsley

+100009999999990009090990

Are we still thinking Bernard Lagat can't kick down someone in a 10K. My money is on him if he decides to do it

WTF!!!! I thought the beauty of the olympic trials in USA were there simplicity.. Top 3 go, like this weekends marathon trials.