So now the Trump admin CDC is fake news?
Gotcha.
So now the Trump admin CDC is fake news?
Gotcha.
Someone needs to tell the people of China to stop living with birds and pigs. We could all die because they're stupid.
Smoking Gras wrote:
And here come the idiots blaming Trump. Never thought that would happen. Coronavirus is at its peak. Just turn off CNN for a week(or forever) . You'll be fine.
Who gutted the CDC? Trump is already trying to minimize it to improve his re-election chances . You will get less truth from the US govt than you get from China ??.
Smoking Gras wrote:
And here come the idiots blaming Trump. Never thought that would happen. Coronavirus is at its peak. Just turn off CNN for a week(or forever) . You'll be fine.
That's just how it is. The number one reason Trump is likely to win re-election is the strength of the economy. Is he the reason for its success? Doesn't matter, he will get credit for it whether he is or is not. Same with coronavirus. If it tanks the economy and harms a lot of people, he will get blamed, whether or not he is at fault. This would apply to any president, not just Trump.
Americans just decide to re-elect presidents that way. 1980 -- recession, Carter loses. 1984 -- economy booming, Reagan wins. 1992 -- economy not great, Bush loses. 1996 -- economy doing great, Clinton wins. 2004 -- economy doing well, Bush wins. 2012 -- economy doing well, Obama wins. 2020 -- tell me how the economy is in October, and I will tell you who will win.
Trump's biggest issue is not his all his issues, it is that the economy has been expanding since 2009. That's bound to come to an end at some point, and the virus might trigger it. It's called a Minsky Moment, and I am sure Trump is more frightened over that than any of the candidates the Dems have put forward.
We can't sustain the boomer+ age population anymore. Drastic measures had to be taken.
Do not worry, if you're <40, can run a <18 minute 5k, and bench press you body weight your mortality rate is <0.1%.
You guys fail to grasp true danger. Arguing numbers and deaths per infection mean nothing.
The real problem with this sucker is it passes without symptoms (up to 14 days), and stays alive on surfaces for 28 days.
Those DAYS stops society from functioning full stop. Supply side & demand side at the same time.
The stockmarket was okay until corona spread out of China & the supply chain stopped.
Let the hoard begin.
wngbarm wrote:
And if it mutates again after that, the death rate could be 320%. It could kill you and then come back and kill you all over again, just to be sure.
This actually made me laugh
It seems academic to the people posting on this board. But it won't be for long. Right now Iran is credited with 95 cases - it's likely in the thousands there already (including the deputy health minister). Italy is credited with 322 and it's likely in the thousands there also.
As to the fatality rate. We have had resolution in about 31,000 cases (dead or recovered). Of those about 2800 are deaths. So the fatality rate could be as high as 9 per cent, and much higher in men than women. When this hits the US we won't be getting the condescending sense of invulnerability currently being radiated by these message boards.
I wish we could just let this flu ravage the world for a few months and then move on. All of this drama is far more annoying than spending a week in bed. I have considered cutting down on my visits to Asian massage parlors if it gets worse. But on the other hand, what the heck else am I supposed to do with my time if we are quarantined?
I am considering elimination of the remaining vegan portion of my diet, which is 1%. Can't be taking any chances with my health at this time.
rojo wrote:
“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/25/f4045570-5758-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.htmlSo that's depressing. The question I have is what steps are the best ones to take to try to survive? Is our best bet to stay at home and order everything on amazon prime or some food delivery service?
Or are you safe out and about as long as you have a mark on and wash your hands?
Sucks to be a follower and not a leader, rojo. You def don't have the foresight and backbone to lead your people. If you haven't seen the writing on the wall and been preparing over the last 2 months for this monstrosity then you might as well wing it with grace. Flaunt the mask-less, confident, adventurous persona. Hey, maybe jamin will get a date before he dies after all. Good luck to you all. I'm taking my N95s, water gravity filters, and H-13 air purifiers, and fish grade cloroquine underground to ride this out with my family. We'll proudly carry the human genetic code and will forever point to the flawed nature of those who trust in the talking heads,. God bless! You will not be forgotten.
Government put a stop on all N95 mask transactions! Can't get them anywhere. It's because, in this country, we are close to 300 million in the hole in order to ensure our medical professionals have sufficient mask reserves to ride out the FIRST WAVE of this MF'er. Thanks Trump for being the condescending, self-absorbed prick that you are. Thanks CDC for creating the biggest pile of diagnostic PCR manure ever. And, thanks my fellow citizens, for being the biggest crop of placid, apathetic, disconnected bunch of sheep ever to walk these rolling plains. We sold our souls to the CCP and our children will forever pay for our transgressions.
OUT.
First off the CDC is a thoroughly compromised organization. The CDC gets millions of dollars annually from Big Pharma and then turns around and recommends testing and drugs created and marketed by those same companies, and this is often done upon the contributing company’s demand.
You can do your own research on this, or not, but to trust your health to any of the bought off alphabet soup government (read: corporate) agencies is a very bad idea. They are not in the business of "protecting public health" so much as in the business of protecting the profits of Big Pharma.
Beyond this as others have noted the Corona virus "pandemic" is nothing of the sort as hyped by the Western media. Just take a look at the actual totals of illness and fatalities. The vast majority of those who have perished were elderly and had a pre-existing condition. That's not to minimize those deaths but to place this in context.
But if you insist on believing your corporate media presstitutes rather than maintaining a healthy immune system I suggest the following security measures:
Act as if you know where you are going even if you don't know. Be as unpredictable as you can be.
For instance: Don't go to your favorite restaurant every Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. Determine your route in advance. Always keep distance between yourself and others. Travel on main, well-lighted roads. Don't talk to strangers. Always lock your doors.
Don't keep a key to your apartment or home under the door mat, or under a potted plant on the front steps. Don't keep all of your money in one place.
If you think you are being followed, immediately beat a path to public space. Walk erect and briskly; be alert at all times.
Dress in camouflage. Report anything unusual or abnormal. Always remember: You may be a target, even without your knowledge, simply because of your nationality, ethnicity, political beliefs,
religion, or sexual orientation. It is always safer to drive close to the center of the road. Don't accept food from strangers. Be careful whom you trust.
When going to disease-infested areas, be sure in advance to get proper pills and inoculations.
Wear a condom. Better yet: Don't have sex, especially with strangers.
At night, walk in well-lit areas. Better still: Don't walk at all.
Drive in heavily armored vehicles. Install high concrete barriers or walls around your communities to keep out those who hate you. Call them gates or fences.
If you think you might be attacked, strike first without pausing to assess whether the threat is real or imagined. The time it takes to think might cost you your life.
Remember: No place is safe yet some places are safer than others; you may not be able to determine which is which. If you know where you are going to die stay away from that place
Cleveland browns head coach wrote:
If you're not stocked up with nonperishables and plenty of firepower, it's your own fault. Also, many companies are already seeing supply chain disruptions.
I’ve stocked up on Heineken and Spam
I have a couple months of food stored (around my waist). I should be fine.
Stock up on Alpha Flys so you can outrun the zombies.
It's similar to the flu wrote:
The death rate is still holding steady at around 2%-3% of the cases. And the reported cases are probably the severe ones where they actually go to a hospital, because how would they confirm someone has it if they don't go and get tested? The death rate of the flu for people that actually go to a hospital is 5%, and for every person that goes to the hospital for flu it's estimated someone just toughs it out, so death rate is more like 2.5% for flu. The vast majority of people dying are older people that are already dealing with some health issues.
If my work says everyone has to start working remotely all the time, I'm fine with that. But will it really effect our daily lives that much? Probably not, if it does then people are overreacting.
Check your numbers
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.htmlLess than 1% of those hospitalized with flu end up dying. As of today, 2,700 of 79,000 confirmed cases have ended up in fatality. That is well over 4x the fatality rate for flu. And this virus seems to spread pretty easily.
polluted breath wrote:
Government put a stop on all N95 mask transactions! Can't get them anywhere. It's because, in this country, we are close to 300 million in the hole in order to ensure our medical professionals have sufficient mask reserves to ride out the FIRST WAVE of this MF'er. Thanks Trump for being the condescending, self-absorbed prick that you are. Thanks CDC for creating the biggest pile of diagnostic PCR manure ever. And, thanks my fellow citizens, for being the biggest crop of placid, apathetic, disconnected bunch of sheep ever to walk these rolling plains. We sold our souls to the CCP and our children will forever pay for our transgressions.
OUT.
N95 masks only filter to .3 microns, Covid-19 is .1 microns, so N95 will only be good in providing the illusion of safety. Moreover, it will enter through your eyes, skin, etc. Only full hazmat suits are good enough, maybe not even the run of the mill versions of those, considering the number of doctors/nurses being infected in China/etc despite wearing them. There is a reason that China, and now South Korea have men in full hazmat suits disinfecting entire streets with sprays:
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/SK.PNG?itok=4amXgU6pLet us not pretend that extra funding to CDC/healthcare would have helped with this, when everything gets misallocated to funding free sex change operations, and gay propaganda these days. Nations need to repent, outlaw their versions of the Democratic party and all the legalized baby murder, sodomite marriage, etc.
Best article I've found with practical advice.