CDC: Coronavirus is coming to USA. "It’s not a question of if this will happen but when." What steps should we take?

Any advanced stat guys on here? How many LRC posters dso you estimate will die?

I'm hoping the brojos can give each of them their own black page but if we're dealing with hundreds I may suggest they just give a black page to the first one and then maybe a final black page once it passes to memorialize all that have died.

Anticipate supply chain disruptions if this gets much worse. Don’t assume you’ll be able to order amazon prime or food delivery and ride this out.

Our Chinese houseboy is coughing atm.

The death rate is still holding steady at around 2%-3% of the cases. And the reported cases are probably the severe ones where they actually go to a hospital, because how would they confirm someone has it if they don't go and get tested? The death rate of the flu for people that actually go to a hospital is 5%, and for every person that goes to the hospital for flu it's estimated someone just toughs it out, so death rate is more like 2.5% for flu. The vast majority of people dying are older people that are already dealing with some health issues.

If my work says everyone has to start working remotely all the time, I'm fine with that. But will it really effect our daily lives that much? Probably not, if it does then people are overreacting.

Early projections for total fatalities of the Chinese Bat Flu are: 7 billion population x 40% infection rate x 2.5% death rate = 56 million

Don't worry, just sit back and listen to some relaxing music like this:

https://youtu.be/kQaSS1_EnI0

If you're not stocked up with nonperishables and plenty of firepower, it's your own fault. Also, many companies are already seeing supply chain disruptions.

rojo wrote:

“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”

Trump took care of the ultimate part weeks ago.

It's similar to the flu wrote:

If my work says everyone has to start working remotely all the time, I'm fine with that. But will it really effect our daily lives that much? Probably not, if it does then people are overreacting.

Office workers will rejoice until they realize they can't buy (you name it) because the cashier had to stay home, too. I like to be able to buy food, for example. If my local food stores close down, I'm kind of effed. I know most Americans could use a good diet but expect to see riots outside of McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, and Starbucks anyway.

Running related: I should start stockpiling food and cut down my mileage to help lower my intake so it lasts longer.

And you want to be the mayor of Baltimore? You might not have what it takes.

Stocking up on essentials and non-perishables is a good idea. 50 lb bags of rice and beans are cheap. Alcohol, iodine, amoxicillin (you can get fishmox from the pet store worst case scenario). For the price of a new pair of vaporflys you can get a lot of stuff. Prepare now in the case of quarantines and supply chain disruption you can hunker down if need be. No need to panic but exercising some basic precautionary measures could pay dividends later considering the circumstances.

The warning signs were there 6-8 weeks ago. If you aren't prepared today you likely won't be if and when the s*** hits the fan.

It's a bad flu. Get some water and food in case people lose their minds in your area and decide to close stores.

Let the LARPers have fun with their zombie prepping if they want.

Recently started stockpiling but only after a measured and careful explanation to my wife. I thought she would believe I was turning into some lunatic doomsday prepper - but she understood and agreed that we need an adequate supply of canned food.

I wonder if the local 5K will be cancelled on May 3.

This is going to be a lot worse than they are saying. First, the death toll in China is a lot higher than the govt is saying . More like 10⚫️%. Second supply chains stretch world wide now. China grinds to a halt we are not far behind. Third too much wealth is on the Internet, and just vanishes if it goes down

Don't fly. Planes are like petri dishes.

So in the USA right now, we can’t really strict quarantine. We also do not have the ability to diagnose corona in mass.

Therefore, it will run its course here ‘free’.

Don’t touch your face, wash your hands, avoid mass public spaces if you can.

Hopefully, the spring & summer will mitigate the virus and buy us some time either for vaccine and bring our public health facilities up to par. Right now, the vaccines will be therapeutic not preventative. And a handful of firms say in a month or so while former fda says years away.

China’s studies are with sample sizes of a whopping 15 people ish. China has also injected many thousands of monkeys. We have the genome but it’s hard to handle. People are even getting reinfected. So, normal resistance is not in play here.

I didn’t mind bringing Americans back under caution. We need to study it here. All Americans in USA who have corona are isolated and being cared for largely on military bases.

Only Americans on front lines in China is GILD.

Voting out the current president would be a good start. His drastic cuts to important public health agencies have crippled our ability to respond to this outbreak. It appears that his strategy is to simply ignore this crisis and hope it goes away because he is worried that it could hurt his re-election prospects if people start freaking out.

By the way, does anyone remember how Trump and Republicans responded to the Ebola crisis? Running around with their hair on fire, demanding that we close all ports of entry, suggesting that American doctors who go abroad to help out shouldn't be allowed back in, and accusing Obama of WANTING Americans to get sick. You'll notice that neither Democrats or Republicans are engaging in this kind of insanity this time around. That's because one party has at least a modicum of integrity and the other is an irredeemable dumpster fire.

"White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated. In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down... The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert, to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced. Public health advocates have been ringing alarm bells to no avail."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

Survive? the best thing to survive is not be 80+ with a heart condition. This is a big story for no reason. You don't need to do anything. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

rojo wrote:

“Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in the United States,” Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters. “It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/25/f4045570-5758-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

So that's depressing. The question I have is what steps are the best ones to take to try to survive? Is our best bet to stay at home and order everything on amazon prime or some food delivery service?

Or are you safe out and about as long as you have a mark on and wash your hands?