Kid slaps teachers hand, calls him a ‘cracker’ - Teacher is arrested

Growing up in the 70s. Corporeal punishment was allowed. But, the school had to request permission from the parents before they could administer it.

The teacher should not have taken this into his own hands without a prior written release from the parents. He should have asked the resource officer to remove the child from the classroom.

Mr. Sars wrote:

Flagpole wrote:



The dude said he guessed I had never been in a school with black kids. He was wrong. Looks like you both are racist. You should stop that.

You need to relax. This isn't about racism, but clearly you desperately need it to be.

Your comments were racist. That's a fact. Racist people make racist comments, hence, you are a racist. Stop being that.

same as it ever was wrote:

DragonLady wrote:



All this proves is that it is impossible to elaborate on the differences between cultures without being castigated as a "racist."

Of course it is possible. Just avoid making statements like all black-majority classrooms have daily behavior problems and you won’t be pointed out as being racist. Voila.

CORRECT!

Mr. Sars wrote:

same as it ever was wrote:



He gave an absolute interval for which one example otherwise refutes the claim. Read his statement again. “It is happening in every classroom”.

It may be true, varying in degree. Anyway, I'm here contending that it's fairly common. I don't care to claim that it exists in "every classroom." Clearly we can't prove that, but we can certainly operate from a reasonable confidence interval to draw more reliable conclusions.

What are you basing this BS on? Ignorance. You are a racist. I went to a 98% white high school the first two years of high school that was filled with disrespectful kids and rougher than any mostly minority schools I taught in. I saw students there fight with teachers, one put LSD in a teacher's coffee, one sexually assaulted a teacher...they brought guns and knives to school. What you did there is how racists fool themselves into believing they aren't racist -- "I will agree that NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is horrible. Guess I'm only racist if I believe that."

Wow. You are a bad person.

The teacher is a registered Democrat if you look him up, voter affiliation is public record in florida. I guess him being called racist names constantly by the black students there set him off and challenged his own views, perhaps he finally realized that not only white people can be racist. BUT that might have happened too late and cost him his job.

That's not true at all. There is a single all white school that is anywhere close to as violent as a school in Compton is, Harlem, Detroit, South Central LA, Ferguson etc. etc. etc. Get real.

Flagpole said: *those comments were racist. That's a fact. Racist people make racist comments, hence, you are a racist. Stop being that.*

Facts cannot be racist so you are talking out of where the sun don't shine.

It is not racist to say on average majority black schools have more behavior problems than majority white schools.

It is not racist to say black neighborhoods have more crime than majority white neighborhoods.

It's foolish and reflects a denial of reality to say otherwise. And it's hypocritical to call people racist who are honestly speaking the truth.

Flagpole wrote:

same as it ever was wrote:
Of course it is possible. Just avoid making statements like all black-majority classrooms have daily behavior problems and you won’t be pointed out as being racist. Voila.

CORRECT!

facing facts wrote:
It is not racist to say on average majority black schools have more behavior problems than majority white schools.
It is not racist to say black neighborhoods have more crime than majority white neighborhoods.
And it's hypocritical to call people racist who are honestly speaking the truth.

These are fairly racist statements, as they imply that all of the difference is due to skin color.
I'd like to see your "facts", in particular adjusted for socio-economic status.

facing facts wrote:

It is not racist to say on average majority black schools have more behavior problems than majority white schools.It is not racist to say black neighborhoods have more crime than majority white neighborhoods.It's foolish and reflects a denial of reality to say otherwise. And it's hypocritical to call people racist who are honestly speaking the truth.

Flagpole wrote:
CORRECT!

Its racist to say it, if it's not true. We havent established if its true or not.
Anecdotally, in my experience, certain cultures being their problems into schools while certain cultures keep their problems out of the schools.
I worked in a school filled with gang members. The Chinese gang members were quiet in the classroom while the Albanians and Blood members were quite vocal. The Dominican gang members weren't too disruptive.
These are my observations but aren't necessarily facts and it would be racist for me to say all Dominicans all Chinese all Blacks or all Albanians.

I wonder if we can get some observations of Americans in schools in China, Albania, Africa, and Dominican Republic?

Probably not. Bet they’d try to speak English until they were properly disciplined, though. Could be fun.

Going back to the original article, it’s not perfectly clear if the computer was allowed or not.

In an extreme case, he might have safely confiscated the computer without endangering the student, but it’s hard to tell.

jesseriley wrote:

I wonder if we can get some observations of Americans in schools in China, Albania, Africa, and Dominican Republic?Probably not. Bet they’d try to speak English until they were properly disciplined, though. Could be fun.

Massive Asian country, small European country, entire continent, small island country .

Yeah, that comparison would make a ton of sense.

DragonLady wrote:

Mr. Sars wrote:



You need to relax. This isn't about racism, but clearly you desperately need it to be.

All this proves is that it is impossible to elaborate on the differences between cultures without being castigated as a "racist."

Poverty isn't a culture.

I think you're confounding two separate issues.

Mr. Sars wrote:

He never said that. You're putting words in his mouth. Also, there's a substantial difference between a majority-black school and one with "lots of black and latino kids." Either way, the solution takes the form of enhanced parental involvement and measures for accountability.

Is that the solution? How do you put such a solution in place? This is truly a million dollar question, because if you could answer that, you could write your own ticket in the education world.

How do you enhance parental involvement when the parent is working 2-3 jobs to provide essentials for the student. Or the parent is on disability, or the parent has addiction issues, or the parent is incarcerated?

How do you enhance accountability when a student is also the caretaker of their siblings, is working 30-40 hours a week on top of school to support themselves and/or their family, then the student is transient and continually uprooted, or abused, or neglected, or facing daily trauma?

How do you reconcile the fact that 2020 is not the same as 1970, and things that worked in 1970 do not and cannot work today?

This is not a problem/solution issue. This is a layers upon layers of chronic and acute challenges that require multiple solutions on multiple levels from multiple programs and groups.

Frankly, this isn't even an education issue. This is a survival issue.

Kids can do whatever they want and there’s no real consequence for the student yetbthe teacher can lose their job and get a bad review for an unruly class.

The kid needed this. He didn’t get hurt. He got picked up and removed from class. The kids baited him, probably months (it’s why there is a recording). Why is that not harassment and considered part of the job?

Ever see Live PD? These kids think they can say whatever and disobey commands. Then end up tased, in jail or worse shot.

Gangs have order. It’s what draws these kids to them. They want discipline.

alt-right posts wrote:

There is no excuse for Letsrun to keep up this thread.It was started with a racially inflammatory post. It has a bunch of racist posts following (which of course was the point).It has been reported multiple times over hours.The only reason they have not deleted it is that they are happy to host racist content in order to keep the clicks rolling in.Wejo and Rojo, you are both disgusting racists!

The only thing racially inflammatory about the post was the kid calling his teacher a racial slur.

Because a news story paints a POC as anything but perfect little angels it's deemed racist, because that goes against your belief that all white people are inherently racist. We've seen this same story play out with you SJW's and it's pretty predictable.

geographer wrote:

DragonLady wrote:
All this proves is that it is impossible to elaborate on the differences between cultures without being castigated as a "racist."

Poverty isn't a culture. I think you're confounding two separate issues.

He's not. You only blame poverty if it fits your narrative. According to your logic the reason blacks fall behind in school is poverty, but you don't point out that low-income students of other races do better than blacks. In this study, even the poorest of white (

Rich and not starving wrote:

You have not been in a school with black kids. It is happening in every classroom. The principal would need to be in every room all day.

The accusations of racism are indeed thrown around too flippantly, often without justification. This is not one of those cases. The above is not a statement of facts as so many of you are claiming. It is a racist statement.
Why are you defending it?