USATF Club Cross Country Championships at Lehigh thread

Aisling Cuffe wins in 20:07

Katelyn Tuohy second in 20:11

Mary Cain 33rd in 21:11

20:11 is 16:45 for 5K and then go another K. Not the hilliest course, but still.

Letssee wrote:

Why is women’s race 6k vs 10k for the men?

Curious to see how Natosha Rogers does.

Looks like she still likes being a frontrunner.

Not a bad result I guess given her recent injury break. I wonder which event she might make a run at for the Olympic team

4 x 1500 = 6k so 5:02.25 per 1500 add 17+ to get mile time is approx 5:20 mile pace. Conditions were cold and wet, too so not fast.

How often do elite high schoolers run club xc nationals?

UrbanNomad wrote:

From what I have heard Tinman have been training all season for this. My bet is they get their butt kicked. That Templeton kid will finally find out what it's like to race real professional runners, not just washed up Kenyans. Sidney Getsthebooty is going to suck worse than he did at 5k champs. And I have no idea who Brazzle Dazzle is. Heard he sucks too. Those guys suck. But, I wish I could join the team.

I guess your hot take was pretty lukewarm after all. Templeton finished second behind tinman elite teammate Morgan Pearson. Cheers!

math jenius wrote:

4 x 1500 = 6k so 5:02.25 per 1500 add 17+ to get mile time is approx 5:20 mile pace. Conditions were cold and wet, too so not fast.

17 seconds does not apply at that pace. 2011 seconds * 1609/6000 = 5:25 per mile or 16:49 for 5K

Baby Yoda wrote:

SithLord wrote:

Chris is a road guy...not a XC runner. He barely has any recent XC experience. Top 3 masters at Paul Short were Angell, Namoli, and Brock Butler. Sallberg won the 5K champs in San Diego over Cooke. Both will be tough. And yes, Loeffler will be in the mix.

The Paul Short course is basically a road race. Chris wins unless Abdi or Lagat shows up.

19th. You weren’t even close.

I guess if you train all year for club nationals and go 1-2 that’s a good day!

Fast Tuohy needs to get a life! Aislynn Cuffe is a former Footlocker Champion and ran well recently at the Manchester Road Race so for her to beat Tuohy is not a shocking result by any means.

Craig Virgo only got 12th at AAU nationals in the weeks after he set the Illinois HS course record. Guys like Frank Shorter killed him.

I think "Tuohy is done" was sarcasm. A solid result for her!

jed23 wrote:

I think "Tuohy is done" was sarcasm. A solid result for her!

I am glad someone could see that. I guess I should spell it out!!!

Conditions were slow..:an inch of mud in most places and light rain. Corners were bad too.

We want a boots on ground race report from Jamin on his performance today.

34:17

T.M.A.D.D.D.H.A.S.F.N.E.

UrbanNomad wrote:

From what I have heard Tinman have been training all season for this. My bet is they get their butt kicked. That Templeton kid will finally find out what it's like to race real professional runners, not just washed up Kenyans. Sidney Getsthebooty is going to suck worse than he did at 5k champs. And I have no idea who Brazzle Dazzle is. Heard he sucks too. Those guys suck. But, I wish I could join the team.

From what I have read, UrbanNobrain had been training all season for this prognostication opportunity.

Well, UrbanNobrain, "those guys" who you say "suck" destroyed their competition, as Tinman Elite's 22 total points crushed second-place HOKA NYNJTC's 126 points. Tinman Elite's results include "that Templeton kid" (Aaron Templeton in 2nd place behind his teammate, Morgan Pearson), who, apparently finally found out "what it's like to race real professional runners, not just washed up Kenyans". Tinman's 22 point only gave them a team win by OVER 100 POINTS and team points like this: 1 + 2 + 5 + 6 + 8 + (10) + (17).

Hey UrbanNobrain, do you now have some idea who "Brazzle Dazzle" is? You know, Brian Barraza, who finished in 13th place and added FIVE points to the winning Tinman team total.

Hey UrbanNoBrain, did "Sidney Getsthebooty" --- I mean Sydney Gidabuday (he of the 19th place finish, out of 475 finishers, I think) --- suck worse than he did at the 5k champs?

It is worth noting where the Tinmen finished today:

Morgan Pearson --- 1st place

Aaron Templeton --- 2nd place

Brian Barraza --- 13th place

Reed Fischer --- 14th place

Connor Winter --- 17th place

Sydney Gidabuday --- 19th place

Patrick Joseph --- 28th place

Hey, UrbanNobrain, to quote Matt Damon in "Good Will Hunting": HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES?

UrbanNobrain, you posted this drek: "My bet is they [the Tinmen] get their butt kicked." In response, let me just say...PLEASE TELL ME WHO WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL, SO THAT I CAN BET 100% OF MY MONEY ON THEIR OPPONENT TO WIN.

All the teams and their results:

PLACE TEAM RESULT 1 2 3 4 5 (6) (7) (8)

1 Tinman Elite 22 1 2 5 6 8 (10) (17)

2 HOKA NJNYTC 126 4 12 20 26 64

3 HOKA Aggie Running Club 137 15 18 27 28 49 (127) (139) (150)

4 Boston Athletic Association 260 16 25 66 71 82 (97) (210) (418)

5 Eastern Buckeye Track Club 322 37 38 60 91 96 (183) (193) (439)

6 Run N Fun 330 30 51 54 58 137 (233)

7 Tracksmith Hare AC 331 23 24 84 93 107 (119) (180) (221)

8 Idaho Distance Project 342 11 19 21 22 269

9 Battle Road Track Club 365 45 61 65 85 109 (166) (187)

10 SRA Elite 406 33 40 68 125 140

11 Pacers Running//GRC New Balance 455 48 67 105 114 121 (134) (138)

12 Philadelphia Runner Track Club 459 47 83 92 104 133 (146) (147) (157)

13 LRC Nebraska 463 63 89 95 98 118 (170) (171)

14 Playmakers Elite/New Balance 474 32 46 78 132 186 (201) (235) (261)

15 Kansas City Smoke 507 14 34 112 122 225 (267) (290) (362)

16 Club Northwest 519 42 90 115 131 141 (176) (206) (286)

17 Peninsula Distance Club 556 41 73 101 129 212

18 Valor Track Club 560 55 70 79 80 276

19 Runablaze Iowa 583 36 52 53 182 260

20 Boulder Track Club 677 3 31 205 211 227 (330) (364)

21 Red Cedar Running Club 699 69 106 108 179 237 (281)

22 Garden State Track Club New Balance 734 13 158 184 189 190 (197)

23 Brooklyn Track Club 735 7 50 130 194 354 (413)

24 Great Lakes Running Club 740 9 43 148 219 321

25 Central Park Track Club New Balance 749 88 120 161 188 192 (352)

26 Philadelphia Runner Track Club-B 793 110 116 169 198 200 (213) (305) (320)

27 Breakneck Track Club 795 103 152 167 178 195 (309)

28 Hartbeat Track Club 795 77 111 128 177 302 (390) (404)

29 Cal Coast Track Club 818 57 62 75 232 392 (443)

30 San Diego Track Club 821 35 59 218 234 275 (329)

31 Collegeville Track Club 892 123 135 156 238 240 (262) (283)

32 Western Mass Distance Project 919 74 81 174 294 296 (386)

33 Tracksmith Hare AC-B 949 102 168 181 230 268 (295) (350)

34 Go St. Louis 997 87 196 204 252 258 (335)

35 Derby CIty AC 1004 56 124 248 264 312 (319) (355)

36 West Valley Track Club 1007 145 165 185 208 304

37 Movin' Shoes Running Club 1007 99 159 173 203 373 (424)

38 Syracuse Track Club 1038 39 94 288 303 314 (343) (464)

39 F and M Track Club 1038 100 162 215 236 325 (394)

40 Garden State Track Club New Balance-B 1047 117 217 223 243 247 (251)

41 Pacers Running//GRC New Balance-B 1101 153 199 244 250 255 (282)

42 Fleet Feet Mechanicsburg 1106 76 149 257 301 323 (353) (358)

43 Wolf Creek Track Club 1124 72 113 263 273 403

44 Bergen Elite 1140 142 154 249 289 306 (346) (388) (397)

45 Central Mass Striders 1140 136 144 226 277 357 (370)

46 Falls Road Running 1184 29 256 270 293 336 (393) (417) (420)

47 Shore Athletic Club 1221 44 143 231 345 458

48 Genesee Valley Harriers 1233 86 126 271 316 434 (453) (467)

49 Greater Boston Track Club 1263 191 254 259 272 287 (308) (313) (407)

50 S.W.I.F.T. Racing 1306 207 229 242 291 337 (338) (361) (410)

51 Garden State Track Club New Balance-C 1330 163 214 220 332 401

52 Dashing Whippets Running Team 1366 164 222 241 365 374 (380) (414)

53 Pacers Running//GRC New Balance-C 1371 175 246 279 322 349 (422)

54 Checkers AC 1383 216 245 278 310 334 (367) (385)

55 elitefeats 1415 172 209 274 300 460

56 Pike Creek Valley Running Club 1428 155 224 266 383 400

57 Asheville Running Collective 1464 239 265 297 324 339

58 Philadelphia Runner Track Club-C 1561 228 280 326 331 396

59 Keystone Track Club 1639 298 311 317 342 371 (409) (446) (448)

60 Moody Park Track Club 1713 202 299 391 405 416 (431) (445) (469)

61 Breakneck Track Club-B 1714 285 307 315 377 430

62 ARE Racing Team 1728 160 328 347 444 449

63 Old Goat Track Club 1754 151 387 395 406 415

64 Collegeville Track Club-B 1792 253 351 368 399 421

65 NOVA Running Club 1801 292 333 363 378 435 (447) (454)

66 Colorado Running Club 1861 284 348 379 423 427

67 F and M Track Club-B 1865 327 340 360 402 436 (437)

68 Garden State Track Club New Balance-D 1930 366 376 382 398 408

69 Tracksmith Hare AC-C 1932 359 381 384 389 419

70 Triple Cities Runners Club 2042 344 369 432 442 455 (463)

71 Philadelphia Runner Track Club-E 2072 341 375 428 457 471

72 Lehigh Valley Road Runners 2128 318 411 462 465 472 (473) (475)

73 Greater Philadelphia TC 2138 356 372 466 470 474

74 SISU Project 2166 412 425 426 451 452

75 Garden State Track Club New Balance-E 2230 433 438 441 450 468

76 Dashing Whippets Running Team-B 2245 429 440 456 459 461

Rough stuff, man! Is UrbanNomad that one dude in Nomad DP that Tinman Elite said "no thanks" to?

I finished a couple mins behind Jamin. Absolute worst conditions I have ever raced in. Could barely move due to mud everywhere. Got beat by a bunch of scrubs I have never lost to. USATF mud champs 2k19.

Why do they require check-in for this race? Totally ridiculous and unnecessary. The line was super long. Picking up your bib should be enough. I understand wanting to make this a championship level race, but with the high number of runners, it created a log jam.

Anyone know the reason for keeping this requirement?