NFL Lineman: I changed my body for sport. No man should have to.

A true alpha male wrote:

Utbcw wrote:

Anyone here remember Lyle Alzado?

+1

A real bad a $$

https://youtu.be/WZiYl4vr-9I

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When I’m fatter I run slower

When I’m skinnier I run faster

What’s not to understand? Changing your body is part of being an athlete. A coach should encourage an athlete to do the right things to get fitter.

However, when a coach demeans an athlete then that’s a different story. I don’t care if it’s about ones body, intelligence, or laugh. That’s a different story and why people have a problem with Al Sal.

Coach LL wrote:

However, when a coach demeans an athlete then that’s a different story. I don’t care if it’s about ones body, intelligence, or laugh. That’s a different story and why people have a problem with Al Sal.

You're right. No coach should demean fatties. They should just give up on them.

If you don't have the willpower to keep your mouth closed you definitely don't have the willpower to be a champion.

Where’s your NYtimes piece?

god i wish i was fat

former player wrote:

I was forced to eat and lift weights. I went from 210 lbs in college to 295 lbs in my second year in the NFL. I don't care how much money I was paid or that I signed up to play in the NFL. No man should ever have to change his body for sport.

Sumo wrestlers have it even worse. Imagine having to eat 10,000 calories worth of chankonabe every day...

dfa wrote:

Wrong.

A trans that went from female to male is more valuable than one that went from male to female.

Wait..

This. This is why we come here. X)

***The OP point is so true though. Yeah it's messed up what athletes are pressured to do for the $$$ and glory but that's completely on them to accept those sacrifices... Even if the coach makes bad decisions and uses their position of power to coerce them into it or losing their place. :C

On a lighter note i hear in the ethos a certain recently retired coach i wont name to avoid litigation is coming out with a new massage lotion line aptly named "Icarus"

Lol i like life so much.

Runners are such snowflakes. Pretty much every professional athlete in every sport changes their body for that sport. That's part of how they become elite.

Men are raised to take it. Toughness is the primary value from early on. Football players sacrifice their bodies for money, women, and fame, and are often rewarded but also have low longevity, high rates of concussions and major injuries, poor health, heart disease, diabetes, stroke, and limited mobility later in life. They often go on long-term pain medication because of their sport. And their weight is something they and their coaches have to constantly monitor in usually unhealthy ways. But at least, if they make it to the NFL, they are rewarded with millions, whereas female distance runners are unlikely to make much. Cain was 17 when she started with Salazar. Does the fact that many men take on such programs themselves or have them forced on them justify Salazar's treatment of her?

former player wrote:

I was forced to eat and lift weights. I went from 210 lbs in college to 295 lbs in my second year in the NFL. I don't care how much money I was paid or that I signed up to play in the NFL. No man should ever have to change his body for sport.

You are right! How dare those coaches ask you to do that! They exploited you and didn't inform you of the terrible risks associated with adding that much weight to your frame.

They should have presented alternatives and allowed you to compete at 200, or less! So what that they $100M QB is getting obliterated on every play since you can't stop the charging Defensive Linemen, this is about YOU and how you FEEL.

former player wrote:

I was forced to eat and lift weights. I went from 210 lbs in college to 295 lbs in my second year in the NFL. I don't care how much money I was paid or that I signed up to play in the NFL. No man should ever have to change his body for sport.

Interesting analogy. I think there are dozens of high-profile cases of football players who quit the sport in their primes because of the toll the sport takes on their bodies and their life expectancies. Barry Sanders was the first that I can recall, and recently there have been large numbers who quit and even sue the NFL. So a runner making a mild complaint about the the expectations for girls to change their bodies and supporting Mary Cain's call for change seems right in line with society's rising awareness of the dark side of professional sports.

This is my favorite thread

This thread just illuminates how dumb SJWs are.

dajsgfvcjagsb wrote:

Did it leave you with possibly permanent damage after five broken bones which were completely avoidable and essentially due to negligence? Did it leave you with a massively increased risk of osteoporosis which can lead to hip fractures, one of the leading causes of death in elderly women? Did it alter your future like that? Did you end up with psychiatric problems that were completely ignored? Hmm. The people who have problems with what she said are part of the problem. No one should damage themselves for sport - especially when it causes such bad results, it's not even like there was a trade off.

The average life expectancy of an nfl player is 53-59 years depending of position they played. Elite sport is unhealthy. It just is.

No one has to do it, but the difference is usually do it and be elite or not. If you don’t want to change you body to participate fine. We all make choices in life. Some people vape, some sky dive, others run the local turkey trot.

NFL linemen in many ways are comparable to what happens to female distance runners, although in a completely different direction. NFL lineman eat way too much fat to try to maintain their weight and set themselves up for cardio vascular problems later in life. TBIs are a huge problem in the sport, especially for lineman who are hitting hard on every play. The NFL could put in place nutritional requirements to keep teams from feeding their players mountains of hamburger and other junk to fatten them up. NFL could also limit gym time to keep players from getting too large. The NFL is no more exciting today with the average lineman weighing 315 lbs than it was in the 1980s when lineman weighed 280 lbs. But those extra 35 lbs take a lot of work to put on and can take years to lose after retirement.

been watching too wrote:

I don't know if you're real ... wrote:

I do not know if you are real? Most men on here who have a problem with Mary Cain are NIKE employees and/or current or former D1 runners, all with smaller contracts than Cain. Why would a 290lbs. defensive lineman care about Mary Cain's plight? If you're 290lbs. with a sub-4.8 40 yard dash you made a lot of money. Only people who make a lot of money do not care about money.

He's not for real, he stole it from another thread.

And no 210 pound lineman would ever be drafted in the NFL. That's offense or defense. That's too little even for a linebacker.

Two words: Harry Groves.

Precious Roy wrote:

NFL lineman eat way too much fat

No... they eat too much. Learn some basic nutrition.

I wonder how many NFL and NBA players have weight-based incentive clauses built into their contracts