ivyrunner6k wrote:
stop talking about D2 on a Heps thread. cant say that anyone gives a rats ass about it
Stop talking heps on this board, it's like talking about a Jayvee team.
ivyrunner6k wrote:
stop talking about D2 on a Heps thread. cant say that anyone gives a rats ass about it
Stop talking heps on this board, it's like talking about a Jayvee team.
Um... you know they also won in 2016 right? Only three teams have won a Heps XC title in the last decade and Penn has two of them. Not quite little guys anymore.
guythatflys wrote:
It takes a brave man to admit his mistake... so for that I tip my cap to you. But yes, you greatly underestimated the Penn men. Still don't know how a 23:59 average on ANY course is taken lightly. You know, it's nice for the little guys to win one... even just this once.
I only noted the Paul Short fast time since it was of discussion on this board in other threads, as some people thought the course was short due to the times.
In addition, it was a great battle at HepsXC on Friday between Penn, Harvard, and Princeton. I had fun following it with a friend of mine who is a Penn distance alumni, and he was just as pleasantly surprised as me with the Quaker win. Penn had the best performance of the day. Princeton chose a bad day to have one of their scorers be "off". Harvard - while have talent on paper - I think has too many guys coming back from injury (that is my theory on Tuntivate, Milner, and Batershill due to their "off season" but I have no real evidence to suggest that) to really be in too much of the hunt this year, but I think they did well given the circumstances in beating a nationally ranked Princeton at the conference meet.
As an aside, I appreciate the hat tip, and find it sad how more people cannot admit when they are wrong when a good performance appears. Yes, I am one of those people who will applaud the opposing team for good plays.
What is up with Princeton, coach over thinking it?
Hard to run a good hard race when you tempo all the races leading up to it. It's OK to race occasionally, that's how you get better at racing.
Which of these teams do you see trending in the right direction. I know Princeton and Harvard had very good classes last year but which teams do you see at the top of the XC heps? Penn, Princeton and Harvard??
Harvard women's xc team should do very well next year with a very promising top group on paper.
Returning:
Lisa Tertsch (2018 XC heps 3rd place and 2019 Outdoor heps 5k/10k champ)
Abbe Goldstein (2018 XC heps 6th place)
Anna Juul (2019 XC heps 3rd place and 2019 Outdoor heps 1500 champ)
Pendergast (2016 XC heps 6th place + 2019 XC heps 20th place)
Slightly off topic, but does anyone in here know any details about Princeton’s new dorms and how it may impact their XC course? I read something about it on Twitter how HepsXC may be back at VCP next year because of this new dorm construction...
Well, credit where it's due: Cornell made some progress from last year.
I don’t think the new dorms directly affect the XC course. But they are relocating some of the athletic fields across the lake to make room for the dorms so maybe that will affect the XC course?
Regionals are this week.
The MidAtlantic and Northeast regionals will be held at the same time - Friday at 11am. Timing/results info can be found here:
http://www.ustfccca.org/meets-results/regional-championships-central
From what I've seen on TSR, they're predicting that only the Penn men and Columbia women will get team qualifiers, and only by securing a top 2 finish in their region (TSR admitted it could be anyone in the #2 spot, including Princeton, for the MidAtlantic men).
So who do we think will make the cut, team or individual-wise?
What is TSR?
The Wood Report is sharing their Regional projections on Twitter.
Here is the MidAtlantic:
https://twitter.com/Wood_Report/status/1194473361138569217
In short, he has Penn 2nd and Princeton 3rd, with Lundy grabbing the Regional individual win.
Nothing yet for the Northeast, but I'll try to share the link to it when it is available.
C/M, we all appreciate these updates!
Thanks BRF. I sometimes feel like I'm hogging the thread with all of these updates. I wouldn't mind seeing some other people's opinions or projections for Friday and beyond...
Other updates:
- the Northeast Regional course has been changed due to the recent heavy snows in Buffalo. The race will now be contested on ROADS. The weather is predicted to be in the mid-30s with a chance of rain/snow in the morning and gusts up to 21 mph per Accuweather. That run is so going to hurt... I wonder if they will release a map of the road course before the races tomorrow.
- The Stride Report is also posting Regional meet previews. The Mid-Atlantic preview is available already, and I'm guessing the Northeast one will be available later this morning.
https://www.thestridereport.com/
- And just in case:
Live Results for Northeast Regional -
https://results.leonetiming.com/xc.html?mid=1884
Live Results for Mid-Atlantic Regional -
The Stride Report has posted their men's predictions for the Northeast and MidAtlantic regions on their website.
Only a few hours til go time.
Any final discussions? I hate it how I have a teleconference meeting at the same time as the races, so my post updates will be somewhat minimal today.
NE Women:
Note, this is now on roads due to the icy grass conditions
6:29.5 at 2km, top 12 within 1 second of leader, top 50 within 6 seconds of leader. Current leader Gabrielle Orie of Cornell.
Good view of the pack at 1km
NE Women at 4km:
Leader in 13:11.9, top 14 within 1 second of leader (includes 7 Ivies in that group). Top Ivy is still G. Orie.
Team standings:
1. Harvard, 100 (8,19,23,24,26)
2. Syracuse, 103 (1,16,21,25,40)
3. Cornell, 133 (3,14,31,41,44)
5. Columbia, 160
6. Yale, 180
7. Dartmouth, 236
14. Brown, 403