My SIL lied to get her kids into a Charter school

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4 years ago 08/22/2019 12:54pm EDT

re: Rower

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So my sister in law lives in a not so good school district and used her fathers place of business address on the charter school application, which is also in the same town as she lives but in a much better school district. For this reason she got a good spot on the lottery list and was accepted.
We were in the same situation a couple years ago but did everything by the book and were so far down on the lottery list that there no way we were getting in. No problem because we planned to move to a better district and we did right before our son started kindergarten.
My SIL just bought a house in the same town we currently live in but has decided to keep her kids in the charter school which goes up to 6th grade.
Her family obviously knows about this and was warned that this was illegal. Nobody has said anything.
I feel that this is wrong as she essentially stole 2 spots from other families kids (she has twins). I’m conflicted as to whether I should say something to the school or not. My SIL is one of those people who often cuts corners to try and get ahead in many aspects of her life.
Should I just let it go or say something?

Mind your own business knark

Perhaps think about channeling your anger to address larger prob wrote:
Many people would argue that someone's address shouldn't determine the quality of public education that is available to him or her. While it is unfair for your sister-in-law to lie about her address and get into the charter school, it is also unfair that someone who lives in one area has access to better public schools than someone who lives in another area. Thus while you are not breaking any rules or cheating, you are certainly taking advantage of a system that basically gives people with wealth better access to great public schools, while providing limited access to poor people. It is hard to say that this is a fair system by any stretch, yet you seem to have no qualms using it to your advantage, as most people would (and I would as well).
Economic equality is a fantasy of socialist utopians; equality of opportunity, however, is a bedrock principal for a healthy and successful capitalist society. It is hard to imagine something that prevents equality of opportunity more than a public school system in which many poor yet talented children receive a lousy education.

Let's keep in mind that bad schools are bad because of the people who attend them. Education differs by neighborhood because some neighborhoods contain disproportionate numbers of crappy students. So yeah, people who live in some areas receive better educations than people who live in other areas, but the quality of education is a collective decision of the students themselves, not some top down decision imposed upon them.

4 years ago 08/22/2019 3:16pm EDT

re: poor people be crazy

poor people be crazy wrote:
Perhaps think about channeling your anger to address larger prob wrote:
Many people would argue that someone's address shouldn't determine the quality of public education that is available to him or her. While it is unfair for your sister-in-law to lie about her address and get into the charter school, it is also unfair that someone who lives in one area has access to better public schools than someone who lives in another area. Thus while you are not breaking any rules or cheating, you are certainly taking advantage of a system that basically gives people with wealth better access to great public schools, while providing limited access to poor people. It is hard to say that this is a fair system by any stretch, yet you seem to have no qualms using it to your advantage, as most people would (and I would as well).
Economic equality is a fantasy of socialist utopians; equality of opportunity, however, is a bedrock principal for a healthy and successful capitalist society. It is hard to imagine something that prevents equality of opportunity more than a public school system in which many poor yet talented children receive a lousy education.
Let's keep in mind that bad schools are bad because of the people who attend them. Education differs by neighborhood because some neighborhoods contain disproportionate numbers of crappy students. So yeah, people who live in some areas receive better educations than people who live in other areas, but the quality of education is a collective decision of the students themselves, not some top down decision imposed upon them.

If 70% of a school is crappy students and 30% is students who would like to learn, then the 30% are getting the decision forced upon them to be in a crappy school. Zoning has dictated that they attend the crappy school, and they have zero choice in the matter. Seems pretty top down to me. Also, the OP is talking about primary school. It seems like a stretch to say that 6 year olds are competent to make informed collective decisions about their education.

Furthermore, teacher pay can vary dramatically by school district. Who gets the best teachers, on average? The ones that pay the most. That has nothing to do with collective student decisions, but rather individual districts ability to raise more taxes and apply them to educational resources.

Finally, people with means have many options to move to strong districts and pick a school. People who are poor often do not have that option.

So basically under the current system, willing students can be forced to go to crappy schools just based upon where they live, which is often a function of how much money their parents have. So the system is inherently unfair. We are not giving equal opportunity to our future generation, which only hurts us in the long run. Imagine I started a track team that took the fastest runners, and you started a track team that took the fastest runners only from a certain socio-economic demographic. Who would win a head to head track meet?

4 years ago 08/23/2019 10:11am EDT

re: Rower

Hi Derek Murphy!

I can understand how this could make you angry. You should start a blog publicly shaming people who don’t live in a school district but send their children to school in that district anyway.

It’s none of your business, but it’s wrong. You should self identify as the one who fixes this problem.

4 years ago 08/23/2019 10:17am EDT

re: Rower

This is not very much different than rich people paying to get their kids into specific colleges.

So many people with a DYKWIA attitude think that they can just do whatever they want if they can afford to pay for it. That’s not the way the system is supposed to work. If your SIL gets away with this then tell me, when does the duplicity stop?

4 years ago 08/23/2019 10:28am EDT

re: Rower

Get a life and quit worrying about your SIL's.

4 years ago 08/23/2019 2:27pm EDT

re: Rower

So, you want to bang the SIL, have realised she's out of your league and the bitterness is eating you up so much that you'd rat her out.

Or maybe you'll implicate her hubby somehow and you'll be there as shoulder to cry on, then WHAM...she'll be wanting your man meat before you know it.

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