Not a journalist wrote:
Them's the Brakes wrote:
I thought it was spelled brakes but I'm no Ivy Leaguer.
You must be new here. The guy is borderline illiterate.
Sometimes I wonder how much his parents paid for him to get into college.
Let's pump the brakes (a little) on Hasay's 3rd place finish. On a day with good weather, only 2 women broke 2:25 in Boston.
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Hgggg wrote:
Charlesvdw wrote:
That’s exactly how it was.
You probably had a bad race but it was 60 degrees with a tailwind. Either you paced or fueled poorly cause those are A- conditions
60 degrees might be A- temperature for a 5 or 10k but it’s hot for a marathon.
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Rupp fan wrote:
What a ridiculous troll thread... praising a couple US men who finished 7th and 8th for successfully running under a round number, yet bashing Jordan Hasay for finishing 3rd after an injury layoff? Round numbers are what it is all about! I guess you would have been happier if she ran 2:24:59 and finished 6th? But no...
This thread is about generating drama clicks from the letsrun degenerates at any cost. Unfortunately, the typical letsrunner would have very little interest in a positive thread about a high school phenom yet again defying the odds and overcoming adversity as an adult. Stay classy, letsrun!
The men were sub elites, not expected to be in the top 10, let alone olympic team contenders. Hasay is a former olympian and expected to be competing with the world's best, not the us's best.
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rojo wrote:
Let me start by writing this. After more than a year away from the marathon, it was great to see Jordan out there competing well. She's clearly made for the marathon.
The third place showing likely will motivate her to continue to dream big, but we need to also acknowledge what we acknowledged going in - the women's field wasn't super strong this year. In the end, only two women broke 2:25.
Yes the 73 first half made a sub-2:25 somewhat hard to accomplish given the 2nd half is hilly but it was doable. In 2017 Hasay ran 72:33 - 70:37 to run 2:23:00. Today, after a 73:08 first half, she ran a 72:12 2nd half.
Coming in there was 3 that I thought were better than Hasay and 2 of them beat her. Hasay taking third over Meskerem Assefa of Ethiopia (2:20:36 pb) was nice as Assefa has won 4 marathons in the last 2 years including Nagoya and Frankfurt last year, but I don't think she's quite back to where she was.
So a big step in the right direction but let's see if she can keep this momentum going.
LRC Note: Brakes was initially mispelled as breaks.
Hasay will medal in Tokyo.
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rojo wrote:
People thinking I'm bashing Hasay are making me laugh. I also started a thread on Yuki and Ritz. Half the people thought I was bashing Ritz. Another half thought I was bashing Yuki for showboating. In reality, I was just pointing out facts that I thought were interesting. Same thing here.
You started a thread on your own site that had troll characteristics. You should probably just admit that. Anytime someone would say "pump the brakes", implies that they disagree with the consensus. So, you knew that you'd get reactions. If you didn't think that people would react to your title or post, then you have a self-awareness issue. But I'm pretty sure you don't - so I'll just chalk this up to someone who wanted to bait some of the more fervent Hasay supporters.
Your comment about Yuki & Ritz above is totally irrelevant (right up there with the dude asking for your marathon time). And in the case of this thread, your title has one fact (2 women breaking 2:25); one opinion (the weather); and one editorial statement (Pump the brakes). So, not the same thing as pointing out "facts".
While you're not directly "bashing" Jordan Hasay; you wrote (and titled) a thread that sure looked like you were less than impressed. And you're entitled to that opinion - but shouldn't be surprised at all by a reaction.
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Monday was Jordan's worst run marathon race ever, yet she still finished third, taking several scalps. That's pretty good in my opinion.
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rojo has the moral maturity and world view of a child - so don't be too hard on him. self-awareness issue - check doesn't understand facts - check surprised by reaction - check
Wadster wrote:
rojo wrote:
People thinking I'm bashing Hasay are making me laugh. I also started a thread on Yuki and Ritz. Half the people thought I was bashing Ritz. Another half thought I was bashing Yuki for showboating. In reality, I was just pointing out facts that I thought were interesting. Same thing here.
You started a thread on your own site that had troll characteristics. You should probably just admit that. Anytime someone would say "pump the brakes", implies that they disagree with the consensus. So, you knew that you'd get reactions. If you didn't think that people would react to your title or post, then you have a self-awareness issue. But I'm pretty sure you don't - so I'll just chalk this up to someone who wanted to bait some of the more fervent Hasay supporters.
Your comment about Yuki & Ritz above is totally irrelevant (right up there with the dude asking for your marathon time). And in the case of this thread, your title has one fact (2 women breaking 2:25); one opinion (the weather); and one editorial statement (Pump the brakes). So, not the same thing as pointing out "facts".
While you're not directly "bashing" Jordan Hasay; you wrote (and titled) a thread that sure looked like you were less than impressed. And you're entitled to that opinion - but shouldn't be surprised at all by a reaction.
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Sorry, but 2019 was a better race for Hasay than 2017. In 2017, Hasay was in a group of 3 that separated in a big way the second half. When the Kenyans dropped the pace, Hasay just held on to Chelimo for the podium finish, but had no pressure from Assefa. In 2019, Hasay fell behind Assefa when the Kiplagat surged. Hasay had to fight to get back and pass Assefa and then had to keep pushing to keep Assefa from catching her. In both Chicago and Boston in 2017, Hasay just held on with the lead pack of three to finish third. This was the first time she caught a very strong runner and was able to hold her off to get a podium. That is important racing experience for Jordan as she has previously only been able to hold on with the final lead group. It is also a good sign that she was able to do that in a very warm and hilly race. So, the fact that she did not break 2:25 is completely irrelevant especially going into a year of championship marathon racing.
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Rupp fan wrote:
What a ridiculous troll thread... praising a couple US men who finished 7th and 8th for successfully running under a round number, yet bashing Jordan Hasay for finishing 3rd after an injury layoff? Round numbers are what it is all about! I guess you would have been happier if she ran 2:24:59 and finished 6th? But no...
This thread is about generating drama clicks from the letsrun degenerates at any cost. Unfortunately, the typical letsrunner would have very little interest in a positive thread about a high school phenom yet again defying the odds and overcoming adversity as an adult. Stay classy, letsrun!
And yet, folks like you just keep on clicking on them.
I didn't get to watch the Boston marathon so I like to read these posts that give more insight into the accomplishments.
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Precious Roy wrote:
Sorry, but 2019 was a better race for Hasay than 2017. In 2017, Hasay was in a group of 3 that separated in a big way the second half. When the Kenyans dropped the pace, Hasay just held on to Chelimo for the podium finish, but had no pressure from Assefa. In 2019, Hasay fell behind Assefa when the Kiplagat surged. Hasay had to fight to get back and pass Assefa and then had to keep pushing to keep Assefa from catching her. In both Chicago and Boston in 2017, Hasay just held on with the lead pack of three to finish third. This was the first time she caught a very strong runner and was able to hold her off to get a podium. That is important racing experience for Jordan as she has previously only been able to hold on with the final lead group. It is also a good sign that she was able to do that in a very warm and hilly race. So, the fact that she did not break 2:25 is completely irrelevant especially going into a year of championship marathon racing.
2017 seems more impressive to me. If she had the fitness that she had in 2017, she would have just gone with Degefa when she made her break. Yeah, in 2019 she had to fight more/differently at the end, but because she put herself in a position where she had to. 2017 was more impressive, but 2019 was still impressive, particularly as here worst marathon.
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Flounder wrote:
Not a journalist wrote:
You must be new here. The guy is borderline illiterate.
Sometimes I wonder how much his parents paid for him to get into college.
lol, like the "surf breaks," except be careful because you can "brake" a bone! ha!
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Kvothe wrote:
Hasay is a former olympian and expected to be competing with the world's best, not the us's best.
Hasay is not an Olympian.
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rojo wrote:
People thinking I'm bashing Hasay are making me laugh.
Bashing? Maybe not but it was a clickbait thread.
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fast times at high wrote:
Flounder wrote:
Sometimes I wonder how much his parents paid for him to get into college.
lol, like the "surf breaks," except be careful because you can "brake" a bone! ha!
Except one time I breaked my bone and I blamed my stock broker! LOL! And he said like gimme a brake! hee hee
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What's really funny is that for a guy who's probably never even tried drugs, he writes like he's high/drunk most of the time.
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Kvothe wrote:
Rupp fan wrote:
What a ridiculous troll thread... praising a couple US men who finished 7th and 8th for successfully running under a round number, yet bashing Jordan Hasay for finishing 3rd after an injury layoff? Round numbers are what it is all about! I guess you would have been happier if she ran 2:24:59 and finished 6th? But no...
This thread is about generating drama clicks from the letsrun degenerates at any cost. Unfortunately, the typical letsrunner would have very little interest in a positive thread about a high school phenom yet again defying the odds and overcoming adversity as an adult. Stay classy, letsrun!
The men were sub elites, not expected to be in the top 10, let alone olympic team contenders.
Wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!!
BOTH were TOP 10 in their most recent WMM race with no reason that they shouldn't repeat that here.
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rojo wrote:
Regional spelling bee champ back on here (true story). Sorry I didn't spell brakes right. I was trying to do my taxes , watch the races and post on the boards all at once.
Anyways, can people learn to calm down? I get that tone is lost on the Internet but just because someone that isn't totally ra-ra Jordan, that doesn't mean they are ripping them. People can't take any criticism in the year 2019.
Anyways, let me reply to a few posts on here.
dunes runner wrote:
Hey, Rojo, what's your fastest marathon?
You started this thread ragging on a woman who's been making a difficult comeback from injury, who finished today as the top American at Boston. The top two American women were 3rd and 5th, compared to the top two American men who finished in 7th and 8th.
But instead of starting a thread about "putting the brakes" how well the US men did, you highlighted their names in "Super Hot on Letsrun" on the front page of this website, saying how GREAT they did, i.e. the "drought is over!"
Don't you notice anything wrong with your attitude? If not, you should.
My best marathon time is 2:23. What does that have to do with anything. I've never believed you need to run fast to have an opinion. What's Frank Gagliano's mile PB?
We don't create super hot threads. Those threads go hot when they get a certain number of clicks.
Rupp fan wrote:
What a ridiculous troll thread... praising a couple US men who finished 7th and 8th for successfully running under a round number, yet bashing Jordan Hasay for finishing 3rd after an injury layoff? Round numbers are what it is all about! I guess you would have been happier if she ran 2:24:59 and finished 6th? But no...
This thread is about generating drama clicks from the letsrun degenerates at any cost. Unfortunately, the typical letsrunner would have very little interest in a positive thread about a high school phenom yet again defying the odds and overcoming adversity as an adult. Stay classy, letsrun!
We wrote a nice feature on Jordan. It amazes me that you all don't want any debate. Again, anything not ra-ra Jordan is viewed as a hit job/troll piece? No, I view the forum as the equivalent of sports radio for our sport.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/04/jordan-hasay-sends-message-with-3rd-place-finish-at-2019-boston-marathon-but-the-best-may-be-yet-to-come/To everyone saying the weather wasn't good, please. It was good enough for most. Do you guys suddenly think Fauble is a 2:07 guy? What about Ward?
CAN YOU PUMP THE BRAKES ON ACTING SO GD DEFENSIVE ON HERE WHEN YOU GET CALLED OUT???
You need to try to listen more. Just do less sometimes. Clearly 99% of this thread disagrees with you which means, maybe, that you got something a little wrong on this one. You come in quickly to tear down a woman for finishing 3rd at the Boston Marathon & start a thread celebrating two under 2:10. We can celebrate all & provide critiques but leading off the commentary on Hasay like this wasn't the way to go about it. We don't need you to respond to a bunch of posters and share some links. Your post was click bait and wasn't fair when you're celebrating the top American men. Stop firing back all the time and stop it with the whole people can't take criticisms in 2019. This isn't a liberal/conservative thing. Your take was just plain bad in 2019. I'm looking forward to your lengthy response and defense of every poster that disagrees. Ya'll need some oversight before you post some truly awful content on here sometimes.
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rojo wrote:
Let me start by writing this. After more than a year away from the marathon, it was great to see Jordan out there competing well. She's clearly made for the marathon.
The third place showing likely will motivate her to continue to dream big, but we need to also acknowledge what we acknowledged going in - the women's field wasn't super strong this year. In the end, only two women broke 2:25.
Yes the 73 first half made a sub-2:25 somewhat hard to accomplish given the 2nd half is hilly but it was doable. In 2017 Hasay ran 72:33 - 70:37 to run 2:23:00. Today, after a 73:08 first half, she ran a 72:12 2nd half.
Coming in there was 3 that I thought were better than Hasay and 2 of them beat her. Hasay taking third over Meskerem Assefa of Ethiopia (2:20:36 pb) was nice as Assefa has won 4 marathons in the last 2 years including Nagoya and Frankfurt last year, but I don't think she's quite back to where she was.
So a big step in the right direction but let's see if she can keep this momentum going.
LRC Note: Brakes was initially mispelled as breaks.
Despite the butt hurt naysayers and spelling follies, Rojos assessment is spot on.
JH did not perform to her or Saladbars expectations.
Objectively speaking, and as one poster noted, the American men were 8 minutes off WR pace while JH was 11 minutes of womens WR pace.
Rojo is not afraid to hold a mirror up to the situation and let the truth be reflected.
Fanbois just get their panties wadded up easily.
Snowflakes.
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rojo wrote:
We wrote a nice feature on Jordan. It amazes me that you all don't want any debate. Again, anything not ra-ra Jordan is viewed as a hit job/troll piece? No, I view the forum as the equivalent of sports radio for our sport.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/04/jordan-hasay-sends-message-with-3rd-place-finish-at-2019-boston-marathon-but-the-best-may-be-yet-to-come/You didn't write a nice piece about Jordan, Jonathan Gault did. If I was Jordan, I would by the OP.
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lets be honest wrote:
rojo wrote:
We wrote a nice feature on Jordan. It amazes me that you all don't want any debate. Again, anything not ra-ra Jordan is viewed as a hit job/troll piece? No, I view the forum as the equivalent of sports radio for our sport.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/04/jordan-hasay-sends-message-with-3rd-place-finish-at-2019-boston-marathon-but-the-best-may-be-yet-to-come/You didn't write a nice piece about Jordan, Jonathan Gault did. If I was Jordan, I would by the OP.
be offended by the OP*
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