Gene Dykes World Record REVERSED!!! Goes Home DEVESTATED

Age and sex categories are a bit silly.

The fastest xx/xy/? at (age) is enough because distance knows nothing of these ideals.

A world record doesn't even really name attached to it essentially.

Just a distance and a time, watch for instance:

Two miles, Seven Minutes and Fifty-two seconds.

Christopher Galen wrote:

Age and sex categories are a bit silly.

The fastest xx/xy/? at (age) is enough because distance knows nothing of these ideals.

A world record doesn't even really "need a" name attached to it essentially.

Just a distance and a time, watch for instance:

Two miles, Seven Minutes and Fifty-two seconds.

amkelley wrote:

WR. wrote:

Do you know the difference between a coach and a manager? If Dykes is paying him it's to coach not manage.

Apparently not. As far as I know nearly all pros and many amateurs have coaches, but I've never heard of a runner having a manager. Is this the same thing as an agent?

Amateurs having coaches? That's silly. ?

Amateurs having coaches? That's silly. ?

everyone collegiate and under is amateur basically.

Christopher Galen wrote:

Amateurs having coaches? That's silly. ?

everyone collegiate and under is amateur basically.

What's so hard about running or jogging in the first place?

I'm the RD of a race where a masters runner approached me to ask if the course was sanctioned since he was going to shoot for an age group record. It was not but the course was USATF certified. He asked if i could have it sanctioned so i did. The only thing i had to do was fill out paperwork and send in $350 in cash.

Can someone seriously tell me how sanctioning makes a course more record eligible when a certified course is all that really matters?

it sure sounds to me like a big money grab from USATF

cashcow wrote:

The only thing i had to do was fill out paperwork and send in $350 in cash.

Can someone seriously tell me how sanctioning makes a course more record eligible when a certified course is all that really matters?

You'd have to tell us what was in the paperwork you filled out to answer that, was it info on who measured and certified the course, course markings, timing set-up/recording, etc?, if so, that's why you need sanctioning, to make sure those things have been done correctly, otherwise anyone could just say their course is certified, this way it can checked with USATF for record purposes.

Certification is completely different from sanctioning.

This particular course was certified many years ago and it's been renewed when required.

There is a specific process for getting a course certified and having it listed here

This is why i question sanctioning.

as you know there is more to putting on a road race than just having the distance certified

usatf site tells you why re sanctioning

choice is yours

http://www.usatf.org/Products---Services/Event-Sanctions.aspx

I did look into running the Houston Marathon. In addition to a certified, record-eligible course, and a USATF sanctioned race, world records are based on gun time, not chip time. At a big marathon like Houston, I'd need to start with the elites to have a chance at a record. I tried numerous times to reach the race director and came up empty. Sometimes I think it's easier to train for a world record than it is to find a suitable marathon!

JustGene wrote:

I did look into running the Houston Marathon. In addition to a certified, record-eligible course, and a USATF sanctioned race, world records are based on gun time, not chip time. At a big marathon like Houston, I'd need to start with the elites to have a chance at a record. I tried numerous times to reach the race director and came up empty. Sometimes I think it's easier to train for a world record than it is to find a suitable marathon!

Gene, reach out to Meb. He’s their spokesperson. Maybe he can pull a few strings for you. Best of luck.