I'm 24, and got tricked into a job I thought would pan out.

And depending on what branch you are in, you can minimize the probability is actually fighting, if thats your goal. The navy or Air Force come to mind.

I know many people who have returned from the military who were strengthened by their experiences. I would say this is more the norm. Look at how many people in civilian life who are on antidepressant medications. Just go ahead a look up the stats.

Maybe you hang out with losers or watch too much sensationalized "news". I don't know.

I would not go into a profession that is killing millions of people around the world. But americans seem to enjoy it so perhaps it is also good for you

semenyagoat wrote:

I would not go into a profession that is killing millions of people around the world. But americans seem to enjoy it so perhaps it is also good for you

Killing the bad guys is always a good thing. Always has been, always will be.

Some people are cowards though, like you. I get it. It's not for everyone.

John Utah wrote:

semenyagoat wrote:

I would not go into a profession that is killing millions of people around the world. But americans seem to enjoy it so perhaps it is also good for you

Killing the bad guys is always a good thing. Always has been, always will be.

Some people are cowards though, like you. I get it. It's not for everyone.

controlling a drone from your whirlpool really is a couragous act. but would not expect anything else from the country where finishing a race gives you a medal

semenyagoat wrote:

John Utah wrote:

Killing the bad guys is always a good thing. Always has been, always will be.

Some people are cowards though, like you. I get it. It's not for everyone.

controlling a drone from your whirlpool really is a couragous act. but would not expect anything else from the country where finishing a race gives you a medal

The object is to kill the bad guys. Stacking the deck in your favor (through technology, tactics, innovations, weapons, etc.) is optimal and has been the desire of every military organization since the beginning of time.

You have your life more together than a lot of people and seem to know what options are available. If you go to school, what would you study? Your first step would be getting an associates degree from a local community college. Then you could transfer to a 4 year university to receive a bachelors with 2 more years of study. This is the best option if you know what you want to study and how to get a job in that field after graduating.

Military is an option, its a steady job and veterans get some benefits, like free tuition to public universities and a preference in hiring for federal and some state jobs. This isn't a bad option, there are a lot of people who join the military when they are in a financial pickle, but they have a lot of rules to follow and require incredibly long hours, maybe living on a base or going overseas.

As for a union, thats controversial. It depends on the employer you work for. In general, a union can step in and prevent you from being fired unjustly, but they do take some money out of your pay checks.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

This is the unfortunate reality for a lot of people. They are told by older relatives “education doesn’t matter and it’s a total waste of time.” Then something like this happens and you’re essentially impossible to hire outside of custodian, trucking, construction, or any other job that does not require an education.

The solution here is try to find a part time custodian job again. At the same time go back to school. You can make a little money and get the education you will need to keep up with the labor market.

I wish that were the reality, but I pay rent and can't maintain my lifestyle, going part-time, then going to school full-time. Maybe if I lived somewhere in the south where taxes are really low also found a cheap apartment for like $500 a month and i found a job at $18.65 an hour, maybe that'd be a possibility, but I don't know if I could do it. It sucks, I got sucked into this, but if I had done school right out of high school i probably would have also flunked, as I was still in that drinking phase. Now, I'm more focused on just working and saving.

Billy56751 wrote:

I only have about $11,000 grand saved up

That's 11 million dollars.

Not bad

Yeah, if I were in your shoes, I'd join the military --- minimally the National Guard.

I got a few folks on my XC team that are in the Guard.

They got their butts whipped into shape. Sometimes you need that little bit of military in ya.

I grew up around all military, and most everyone I work with is or was in the military. Only thing I didn't do was serve, but actively thought about it.

John Utah wrote:

semenyagoat wrote:

controlling a drone from your whirlpool really is a couragous act. but would not expect anything else from the country where finishing a race gives you a medal

The object is to kill the bad guys. Stacking the deck in your favor (through technology, tactics, innovations, weapons, etc.) is optimal and has been the desire of every military organization since the beginning of time.

But is it cowardly?

fixed your quote btw

Desk Jockey Military wrote:

John Utah wrote:

The object is to kill the bad guys. Stacking the deck in your favor (through technology, tactics, innovations, weapons, etc.) is optimal and has been the desire of every military organization since the beginning of time.

But is it cowardly?

fixed your quote btw

No

Do you have any other questions?

1. Stop your whining (and drinking)

2. Be thankful you saved 11 grand

3. Find yourself a stepping stone job ASAP

4. Spend quality time introspecting on your passions/interests/future

5. Grow up

You're already 6 years behind the college train which means you'll have to work longer past retirement age to get the benefits from any college-required career to get the same benefit from it as others. Because of this, you've got to pick a college path that is actually worth it financially. I'd recommend looking at the highest demand jobs that require a college degree, and pick the one you like the best. Don't go through school in your mid-late 20's to get a degree that isn't going to give you much return. Psychology probably isn't going to give you much return. There are great options in community college, you can go through a useful program in 2/2.5 years and be making $60k+ three years from now. Most of these programs are science/technology related.

Check out 84 Lumber's management trainee program. Do it.

Just retire. "11,000 grand" is a whole lotta dough.

Look into Lineman School. I have a former athlete that is going to a school in Boise Idaho. It cost about $20k and is like 14 weeks long I think. He already has job offers (does not graduate until Feb) starting in the $20/hour range. Takes a few years to reach Journeyman status but once you do it is $40/hour + I have a coworker and their son is a foreman and will gross over $150k this year.

If I were younger and had no kids (easier to move where the job offer is) I would do this in a heartbeat.

I think you're serious, so I'll answer seriously.

Look into the trades. You started being good with your hands. The unions offer training and dare I say a bit of independence/security in a world that doesn't offer much anymore. No work up north - you have skills that are transportable down south. Or west. Or anywhere.

Buddy of mine went to one semester of college. Hated it. Went to HVAC school. Left and became HVAC repairman. Now works for company pulling in 100K+ per year. He's got nearly 30 years experience mind. But He also has a pension.

I can tell you no matter what else - having a portable skill is essential now. If you're good with your hands and can solve problems, the sky is the limit.

Last note. I just read about a tool and die company here that posted for two jobs - same pay. One in accounting. One a tool and die operator. they got one - one - application for the tool and die spot. Within 2 days they got over 200 resumes for the accounting position. Just saying...

Good luck to you.

2=1) your name is Billy and 2) for "$11,000 grand"