How did we get from “50 Shades” selling 125mil copies to “Baby it’s Cold Outside” being offensive?

agip wrote:

ha.

I think you are reading too much news.

Seriously - you got clickbaited.

Be better, jeff.

agip clicks on Jeff's provocative message board on the internet, and then criticizes Jeff for clicking on things on the internet.

wow, you’re a moron.

Fifty shades of gray is marketed as an adult-themed book. Baby it’s cold outside was marketed as a family-friendly Christmas song. They are held to different standards. How do you not understand this simple concept?

Racket wrote:

Gonna let you in on a little secret : no one actually cares. That evil elite liberal media you always rail against and claim to hate but apparently read non stop and get baited by on a daily basis is just telling you everyone does. Kinda like the Kevin Hart thing. No one cares but desperate for money blogs and twitter accounts will blow it out of the water proclaiming it's such a big deal.

If it's not a big deal, then why isn't Kevin Hart hosting the Oscars?

You can't have it both ways, either this is just a bunch of "they said, then they said" nonsense that never results in any real action, or it is a real cultural fight that has real consequences, such as Kevin Hart not being able to host the Oscars.

Since Kevin Hart is in fact not hosting the Oscars, it makes sense to point out how ridiculous the evangelical progressive puritans have become with their blasphemy rules. Kevin Hart is now stained with the scarlet letter H for homophobic forevermore. But yet, Sarah Silverman can get away with past off color jokes because she has sufficiently proclaimed the gospel of progressiveness. There is a double standard that is entirely based on a kind of religious fervor that matches any other religious fervor in history.

Maybe he capitulated too easily. Maybe he just thought it would be easier to step down instead of hiring a crisis management team. The point is, there is a very small percentage of people who actually care/are holding old tweets against him. This isn't some big "liberals will hate anyone for anything they've said in their past" bullsh!t, it's a bunch of click-bait writing bloggers desperate to make a page hit count. All in all, I'd say there's probably about 1000 people max in the US that actually care what he said however many years ago and are holding it against him. Then on the other hand, there's tens of thousands of herpy derp idiots, such as yourself, who will eat it up and use it as justification for your "see! liberals are just so mean to us and we had no choice but to vote for Trump!!! :(((((( "

theJeff is braindead wrote:

wow, you’re a moron.

Fifty shades of gray is marketed as an adult-themed book. Baby it’s cold outside was marketed as a family-friendly Christmas song. They are held to different standards. How do you not understand this simple concept?

More to the point there are over 300 million americans. You can have 100 million buy a book and have another 100 million protest a song with little intersection of the populations.

Got to admit it is fun hearing conservatives being in support of a woman have recreational sex outside of marriage. Not normally something they push as being ok?

Oh Please wrote:

theJeff wrote:

2011- Fifty Shades of Gray sells 100,000,000+ copies.

2018- “Baby it’s Cold Outside” is taken off the radio and Little Mermaid’s “Kiss the Girl” is banned from a collegiate a capella performance.

How spoiled are we that we have time to be concerned with this crap? I don’t think I like post-industrialism.

The pendulum is swinging that way. In n-number of years, it'll go another direction. It's a the modern equivalent of the 1950s, where sex is taboo and you're a cretin if you think about or talk about it.

We already have a political party that is against abortion, and contraception, in the same breath it supports execution.

omygoodnes wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

The pendulum is swinging that way. In n-number of years, it'll go another direction. It's a the modern equivalent of the 1950s, where sex is taboo and you're a cretin if you think about or talk about it.

We already have a political party that is against abortion, and contraception, in the same breath it supports execution.

Because an innocent unborn baby is exactly the same thing as a murder who deserves to die. Nice logic moran.

Also, Republicans aren't against contraception that PREVENTS pregnancy, they are against pills and procedures that END pregnancy. Abortion and contraception are different things, even if people like you are stupid enough to be tricked into thinking they are the same.

I agree it's a small group of "a bunch of click-bait writing bloggers." And yet that small group is able to dramatically alter Kevin Hart's life and affect the tone of the Oscars which are still watched (though I have no idea why) by millions of people. I don't care what Kevin Hart said 8 years ago. I don't care what Sarah Silverman said 7 years ago. They could make the same jokes today, and I wouldn't care. The main message of us deplorable "Trump" voters is that we are sick of the small group of click-bait writing bloggers having such a big affect on our culture. We are sick of the pretend outrage that has to control our culture and our politics.

So Trump purposely mispelled Adam Schiff's name. I don't care. Trump called crappy countries that everyone wants to escape from "sh**hole countries." I don't care. Trump said Ted Cruz's dad was involved in the JFK assassination. I'm not even sure I know the exact story on that one, but I don't care to find out, because I don't care. Politicians are always talking sh**, Trump just does it in a more entertaining way than the rest of them. Politics is an insult contest, Trump does it best right now because he does it in the most entertaining way. This has always been the case, but we haven't let ourselves admit it. The cultural message of Trump's election is the exact message that you are espousing in your reply to me. Everyone needs to lighted up and stop letting the fake outrage manipulate us all.

I honestly do believe it is just the fringe left that believe the song is offensive. Every conversation ive had with people irl about the song seem to think that there is nothing wrong with it.

theJeff wrote:

what now wrote:

Are you saying that playing the song "Baby it's Cold Outside" on the radio is like reading "50 Shades" on the radio? Which radio stations were reading "50 Shades" as on air content? Porn is more popular than ever, do you expect to see it on NBC sometime soon though?

Clearly not.

If you need it spelled out for you: in less than a decade, we have gone from a series of books explicitly about a man sexually dominating a woman being a best seller, to getting our feathers in a ruffle over lyrics from Disney & Crooners’ songs…

I am surprised you didn’t know that.

Lmao dude are you serious? Do you not understand what consent is?

50 Shades - consent

Baby It’s Cold - no consent

Mind blowing concept.

Difficult to tell whether theJeff got clickbaited by some puerile headline or whether he is pretending to be clueless to start a great troll thread :)

The fact that you’re entertained by Trump says a lot about your intelligence. As does using the phrase “everyone needs to lighted up...”

sometimesitsdifficult wrote:

Difficult to tell whether theJeff got clickbaited by some puerile headline or whether he is pretending to be clueless to start a great troll thread :)

It’s an art more than a science.

Oh Please wrote:

theJeff wrote:

2011- Fifty Shades of Gray sells 100,000,000+ copies.

2018- “Baby it’s Cold Outside” is taken off the radio and Little Mermaid’s “Kiss the Girl” is banned from a collegiate a capella performance.

How spoiled are we that we have time to be concerned with this crap? I don’t think I like post-industrialism.

The pendulum is swinging that way. In n-number of years, it'll go another direction. It's a the modern equivalent of the 1950s, where sex is taboo and you're a cretin if you think about or talk about it.

Any form of the n "word" is abhorrent and unacceptable in today's angelic society.

Trump voters were really looking forward to watching Kevin Hart host the Oscars.