2011- Fifty Shades of Gray sells 100,000,000+ copies.
2018- “Baby it’s Cold Outside” is taken off the radio and Little Mermaid’s “Kiss the Girl” is banned from a collegiate a capella performance.
How spoiled are we that we have time to be concerned with this crap? I don’t think I like post-industrialism.
Liberals are the new Puritans - the are extremely authoritarian.
Because democrats are an obamanation.
ha.
I think you are reading too much news.
Seriously - you got clickbaited.
Be better, jeff.
theJeff wrote:
2011- Fifty Shades of Gray sells 100,000,000+ copies.
2018- “Baby it’s Cold Outside” is taken off the radio and Little Mermaid’s “Kiss the Girl” is banned from a collegiate a capella performance.
How spoiled are we that we have time to be concerned with this crap? I don’t think I like post-industrialism.
The pendulum is swinging that way. In n-number of years, it'll go another direction. It's a the modern equivalent of the 1950s, where sex is taboo and you're a cretin if you think about or talk about it.
agip wrote:
ha.
I think you are reading too much news.
Seriously - you got clickbaited.
Be better, jeff.
“Fifty Shades of Grey has topped best-seller lists around the world, selling over 125 million copies worldwide by June 2015. It has been translated into 52 languages, and set a record in the United Kingdom as the fastest-selling paperback of all time.”
Per Google
Anything else, agip?
theJeff wrote:
agip wrote:
ha.
I think you are reading too much news.
Seriously - you got clickbaited.
Be better, jeff.
“Fifty Shades of Grey has topped best-seller lists around the world, selling over 125 million copies worldwide by June 2015. It has been translated into 52 languages, and set a record in the United Kingdom as the fastest-selling paperback of all time.”
Per Google
Anything else, agip?
my point is that nothing is banned. As far as I can tell, three or four radio stations in America apparently stopped playing the song, which generated breathless headlines.
50 shades benefits from the same lack of banning. I'm sure at least 3-4 bookstores refused to stock the book.
You read some clickbait headlines and got your blood pressure up is all I'm saying.
It's the negative effect of Social Media- the extremes look like they are greater in number than they are because they scream the loudest.
In terms of people's opinions, probably nothing has changed. What has changed is that we now give attention to the smallest voices as if they should matter.
I recently donated to Wikipedia so that people like you could read pages like this:
Donator wrote:
I recently donated to Wikipedia so that people like you could read pages like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
+1. OP goes home DEVASTATED
agip wrote:
theJeff wrote:
“Fifty Shades of Grey has topped best-seller lists around the world, selling over 125 million copies worldwide by June 2015. It has been translated into 52 languages, and set a record in the United Kingdom as the fastest-selling paperback of all time.”
Per Google
Anything else, agip?
my point is that nothing is banned. As far as I can tell, three or four radio stations in America apparently stopped playing the song, which generated breathless headlines.
50 shades benefits from the same lack of banning. I'm sure at least 3-4 bookstores refused to stock the book.
You read some clickbait headlines and got your blood pressure up is all I'm saying.
Fair enough on the 3-4 bookstores. Please note that I didn’t say anything was “banned from radio”.
Fwiw: This was pointed out to me by a friend, not a headline (although they may have gotten it from a headline, lol). Everything here is based on fact.
Donator wrote:
I recently donated to Wikipedia so that people like you could read pages like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
Thank you. Reading that helped me realize that comparing my post to the examples in that article is a False Equivalence.
Are you saying that playing the song "Baby it's Cold Outside" on the radio is like reading "50 Shades" on the radio? Which radio stations were reading "50 Shades" as on air content? Porn is more popular than ever, do you expect to see it on NBC sometime soon though?
theJeff wrote:
Donator wrote:
I recently donated to Wikipedia so that people like you could read pages like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalenceThank you. Reading that helped me realize that comparing my post to the examples in that article is a False Equivalence.
Just take the L.
The answer to the OP's question has to do with "empowerment," a vague and shape-shifting concept that seems to mean whatever the person invoking it wants it to mean. Apparently the woman in "Fifty Shades of Grey," who appeared to be demeaned and victimized, was actually being liberated and empowered. Go figure. Whereas in that song, the guy who was coyly suggesting that the woman who had already warmed to him might want to consider going to bed was being "assaulted." Go figure.
When to we get to songs like Donovan's "Mellow Yellow" and the Rolling Stones' "Stray Cat Blues," which sexualized girls age 14 and 15, respectively?
theJeff wrote:
Please note that I didn’t say anything was “banned from radio”.
You said that it was taken off the radio. This is not true, as the song is still on the radio.
theJeff wrote:
2011- Fifty Shades of Gray sells 100,000,000+ copies.
2018- “Baby it’s Cold Outside” is taken off the radio and Little Mermaid’s “Kiss the Girl” is banned from a collegiate a capella performance.
How spoiled are we that we have time to be concerned with this crap? I don’t think I like post-industrialism.
I don't really care what you like or don't like but you apparently have no ability to critically think things through.
One is about triggering a discussion on the meaning of consent
The other is a guy who doesn't understand that no means no and who is likely committing an assault.
what now wrote:
Are you saying that playing the song "Baby it's Cold Outside" on the radio is like reading "50 Shades" on the radio? Which radio stations were reading "50 Shades" as on air content? Porn is more popular than ever, do you expect to see it on NBC sometime soon though?
Clearly not.
If you need it spelled out for you: in less than a decade, we have gone from a series of books explicitly about a man sexually dominating a woman being a best seller, to getting our feathers in a ruffle over lyrics from Disney & Crooners’ songs…
I am surprised you didn’t know that.