Why do runners not know how to run on MULTI-USE trails?

https://ggwash.org/view/28013/cyclist-kills-pedestrian-does-calling-on-your-left-not-work

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Why do bicyclist's think they can go with whatever speed they wish and everybody jumps out of their way when the call: ONYORLEFT! ?

It's so annoying. A multi use path is not the high speed training ground for a wannabe triathlete.

two words: air horn

They should be on the roads where big semis can buzz by at 70 mph 3 inches from their ear.

gdm wrote:

two words: air horn

One word: nails

WiredFart wrote: Afterward I was wondering if I should have leaned left just enough to make body contact and knock him back to HIS SIDE of the trail.

Cool, the cycling version of that running forum classic: the tough guy blow-by.

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I'm an elite age-group race car driver. Sometimes when I'm commuting in my regular car, wannabe Lance Armstrong cyclists don't realize I always have the right of way in a street mostly used for driving and they cause me minor and temporary inconvenience. But I'm more important than they are. So recently I took the license plates off so I can't be identified and I just mow down anyone within 5 feet of me.

It's fun to see the hobby group cyclists' egos shattered when a hobby runner like myself passes them on the trail at 15mph (5:00 mile pace). They s$%t their spandex.

nerdy virgin xc runner wrote:

It's fun to see the hobby group cyclists' egos shattered when a hobby runner like myself passes them on the trail at 15mph (5:00 mile pace). They s$%t their spandex.

Want to take another crack at that post, chief?

wow you sound fast and smart wrote:

nerdy virgin xc runner wrote:

It's fun to see the hobby group cyclists' egos shattered when a hobby runner like myself passes them on the trail at 15mph (5:00 mile pace). They s$%t their spandex.

Want to take another crack at that post, chief?

Pretty sure he meant 20 mph (4:00 mile pace)

While I don't like folks going down the middle of the path, traffic is to be expected on multi-use trails

Multi-use trails / bike paths typically have a speed limit of 15 mph

15 mph is an easy spin on a bike... leaves are not a big issue at that pace when you could easily ride a gravel or mtb

Peds still have right of way

The creator of this post has obviously had their feelings hurt by the 'Do Cyclists Suck On Purpose' post and chose to copy that one and make fun of it a bit. Based on you being an elite AGE-GROUP triathlete and not just an elite triathlete, I imagine you're an older individual but acting like a child with your post.

While a group of runners running a workout shouldn't take up the whole path (unless there's no one near them on the path that they are forcing out of the way), a cyclist getting in a workout shouldn't fly past pedestrians going near 20mph unless the path is a HUGE path and you can give them plenty of space. Slow up to a safer passing speed or get on a road where the speed limit is 25mph. Most pedestrian/bike paths have speed limits of 10mph anyway, so you shouldn't get mad that you're not able to smoothly bike at speeds of 15-20mph.

the short and sweet here is that EVERYONE is stupid. More than half of people I yell "on your left" to, do not know what that means, and either move to the left, right where I am going, or turn around with a big confused look on their face. Because they cannot be trusted, you need to put as much energy into protecting yourself as you can, since others clearly are not to be trusted with your own safety.

Cars should yield to bikes, bikes should yield to pedestrians, (and pedestrians should yield to horses, if applicable). But all parties should have a plan in case something goes wrong, because murphy's law.

The rules of the road are not the laws of physics. If you are a cyclist or pedestrian "in the right" but the car completely blows through the stop sign and hits you, you are still screwed. Doesn't matter that the car was in the wrong and you were in the right... sure you can sue for some money if you survive, but you could be dead too. I would rather just not be hit by a car than survive and win a lot of money in court. And I avoid that by practicing safe running. It's not that hard, and doesn't take away much of the fun either.

I think by eliminating any sort of "bike/pedestrian privilege" and resign yourself to always having to be fully aware of your surroundings, how a car or bike could be coming from X direction, how people tend to not notice a certain stop sign, or you're in an area of a lot of DGAF BMW pricks, you should always have a safety plan, being ready to change directions, come to a complete stop, or dive into the bushes if you need to, but hopefully not, because you have anticipated 8 different ways that a car could be coming around that corner too fast or backing out of a hidden driveway or a cyclist looking at their computer and listening to earbuds for some reason instead of paying attention (seriously people, don't run, and especially don't bike with earbuds!!) .

Are you one of those jerk cyclists who rides with an ultra-bright headlight on the trail, blinding every pedestrian in your path? I've stumbled and risked injury because of those jerks. I hope that wasn't you.

I Spotted A Jerk wrote:Most pedestrian/bike paths have speed limits of 10mph anyway, so you shouldn't get mad that you're not able to smoothly bike at speeds of 15-20mph.

Our busiest and most used MUP trail, (Burke-Gilman-Sammamish River Trail) which stretches about 25 miles through Seattle has posted speed limits of 15mph. It is a very well used trail and there are many people that use it daily to commute to work into Seattle. Many people are often going faster than that. At times the police patrol it but not often.

OP is not a cyclist because a cyclist riding in early morning darkness would have a headlight that would be seen by runners. Also, to the other stooge, 5 min pace is 12 mph, not 15.

peds wrote:Peds still have right of way

Why does it matter that the cyclist was doping?

Triathlete goes home devastated.