this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
Image in front page article (Nairobi national park?) perfectly illustrates why Americans are slow
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets. -
It's the terrain, the altitude, it's the quality of the runners in Kenya. If you want to run with the best you have to train with the best. Just ask Sondre Moen, Jake Robertson, Zane Robertson, Julian Wanders, Reid Coolsaet,
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Kvothe wrote:
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
There could also be additional factors providing huge incentives such as very few, if any, opportunities to have a life if you don't "make it" in running. In the US our runners are, for the most part, college educated and have options to support themselves outside of running (minus the glory). It's amazing how deep someone can dig when the only way out of poverty is to pursue something that promises to lift them up. -
Please take advantage of the uncluttered trails and jog in the park unaccompanied. Dusk and dawn are the best times as you’ll hardly be alone.
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I hate the fact that some African parks encourage the killing of rare animals for money!
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I was expecting to see a picture of a:
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who's dat kenyan wearing the USA singlet?
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Magdalene wrote:
I hate the fact that some African parks encourage the killing of rare animals for money!.
The Kenyan and South African are diametrical opposites. Game hunting is illegal in Kenya but considered a viable industry in most countries in Southern Africa. Which begs the question why you brought this up on a thread about a Kenyan park. -
who's dat kenyan wearing the USA singlet? wrote:
who's dat kenyan wearing the USA singlet?
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The US is a big place. You should get out more if you have never seen a dirt road like this. Plenty of these in Colorado if the requirement is altitude.
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There are hundreds of miles of roads like this next to Oregon State University and they can't even justify a men's xc/track program. Portland has very similar options a few miles from downtown. You should visit the west.
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Africans have been prey, not exactly the top of the food chain, more recently in human evolution than Europeans, and have therefore retained more running ability.
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skrillquest wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
There could also be additional factors providing huge incentives such as very few, if any, opportunities to have a life if you don't "make it" in running. In the US our runners are, for the most part, college educated and have options to support themselves outside of running (minus the glory). It's amazing how deep someone can dig when the only way out of poverty is to pursue something that promises to lift them up.
It’s not all that clear - there are a lot of lazy but talented Kenyans. It has a lot to do with the super low cost of living, which is $1 and change for most runners there. They can afford to train all day. In the US with the opportunity cost it is a very expensive sport to pursue professionally. -
Kvothe wrote:
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
Not to ruin this ideal picture you have, but what this doesn’t show are the trucks zooming through spewing black smoke and the trash on the side of the roads. -
tbushnell wrote:
There are hundreds of miles of roads like this next to Oregon State University and they can't even justify a men's xc/track program. Portland has very similar options a few miles from downtown. You should visit the west.
Exactly. I can run on dirt roads just like that one every single day here in the SF Bay Area but it's not gonna make me as fast as the top Kenyans (or Americans or Japanese or ...). -
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Laziness wrote:
It’s not all that clear - there are a lot of lazy but talented Kenyans. It has a lot to do with the super low cost of living, which is $1 and change for most runners there. They can afford to train all day. In the US with the opportunity cost it is a very expensive sport to pursue professionally.
Or, money made from doping is too good to pass up.
If Kenyans bring home as little as $100,000 per race, 6x a year, that's enough to bribe any Western IAAF officials to never test positive and have plenty left over to bribe local officials.
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Kvothe wrote:
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
You are childishly naïve and shockingly ignorant if you associate paved roadways with corruption and what is "wrong" with the USA.
Yes, an amazing place to run, however, there are a few other priorities in society. I cannot believe this would even need to be said. WTF? -
John Utah wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
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this looks like an amazing place to train. I know my metro area of well over a million people has nothing like that. In most of the US, a road like that would have been paved (even if only a handful of cars a day drive it) for the sake of lining a contractor's pockets.
You are childishly naïve and shockingly ignorant if you associate paved roadways with corruption and what is "wrong" with the USA.
Yes, an amazing place to run, however, there are a few other priorities in society. I cannot believe this would even need to be said. WTF?
On top of that, the corruption levels in Kenya are 10000000000x of the USA (and that's acknowledging that there is plenty of corruption in the USA) Good grief, dude. -
If you look closely you can still see used syringes on the side of the road there, the difference being they were used for RPO rather than heroin etc.
It is funny that everyone goes on about training at your own level for progress and yet the secret is also to go to Kenya and get dragged along. Both ways, huh?
