So Elijah Manangoi thinks only black people can be African?

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

Hardly a surprise when his staunchest supporter here and on Twitter is racist black nationalist who calls for genocide against white farmers in Africa.

Are you reading these threads Weldon? You do realize that elite runners from the present and past regularly browse this forum, including it was confirmed just recently Tim Hutchings and Crammy.

Why don't you just change the name of the site to LetsDope.com? Or maybe BlackPanthersReunited.com ?

There’s nothing wrong with what he said and it wasn’t intended to exclude any whites, Asians or Arabs that identify as African.

El Keniano wrote:

There’s nothing wrong with what he said and it wasn’t intended to exclude any whites, Asians or Arabs that identify as African.

Fake news. Sensationalism. Coevett bait.

Quote for context please?

That's the world we live in now. You are allowed to say anything disparaging about whites, but absolutely do not even hint anything but praise and wondrous hyperbole regarding other races. This is good race relations building. That and forced integration and policies that force companies to give other races a job only because of their race. Talent, right fit, and qualifications be damned. It's all good. All heading towards the right direction.

Humping jumping black panther power wrote:

That's the world we live in now. You are allowed to say anything disparaging about whites, but absolutely do not even hint anything but praise and wondrous hyperbole regarding other races. This is good race relations building. That and forced integration and policies that force companies to give other races a job only because of their race. Talent, right fit, and qualifications be damned. It's all good. All heading towards the right direction.

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

Coevett wrote:

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

Hardly a surprise when his staunchest supporter here and on Twitter is racist black nationalist who calls for genocide against white farmers in Africa.

Are you reading these threads Weldon? You do realize that elite runners from the present and past regularly browse this forum, including it was confirmed just recently Tim Hutchings and Crammy.

Why don't you just change the name of the site to LetsDope.com? Or maybe BlackPanthersReunited.com ?

You remain unhinged.

did you just say hyperbole? wrote:

Humping jumping black panther power wrote:

That's the world we live in now. You are allowed to say anything disparaging about whites, but absolutely do not even hint anything but praise and wondrous hyperbole regarding other races. This is good race relations building. That and forced integration and policies that force companies to give other races a job only because of their race. Talent, right fit, and qualifications be damned. It's all good. All heading towards the right direction.

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

Of course. It is encouraged. The thing you are not allowed to do is be white and proud of it. Then it becomes racist.

Coevett wrote:

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

Hardly a surprise when his staunchest supporter here and on Twitter is racist black nationalist who calls for genocide against white farmers in Africa.

Are you reading these threads Weldon? You do realize that elite runners from the present and past regularly browse this forum, including it was confirmed just recently Tim Hutchings and Crammy.

Why don't you just change the name of the site to LetsDope.com? Or maybe BlackPanthersReunited.com ?

The hilarity of this kind of talk coming from Coevett of all people is staggering.

did you just say hyperbole? wrote:

Humping jumping black panther power wrote:

That's the world we live in now. You are allowed to say anything disparaging about whites, but absolutely do not even hint anything but praise and wondrous hyperbole regarding other races. This is good race relations building. That and forced integration and policies that force companies to give other races a job only because of their race. Talent, right fit, and qualifications be damned. It's all good. All heading towards the right direction.

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

No, he is saying that you can only be African if you are black.

This isn't innocent, they use this as a justification to commit a genocide in South-Africa against the whites.

Meanwhile we have to accept that all European teams are invaded by Africans because of "diversity".

hyperbole? wrote:

did you just say hyperbole? wrote:

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

Of course. It is encouraged. The thing you are not allowed to do is be white and proud of it. Then it becomes racist.

The entire idea of identifying yourself and classifying others based on the latitude where your ancestors grew up seems pretty non-sensical to me in general.

hyperbole? wrote:

did you just say hyperbole? wrote:

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

Of course. It is encouraged. The thing you are not allowed to do is be white and proud of it. Then it becomes racist.

Defect to Russia. Problem solved.

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

Awww a white guy doesn't feel included in everything. Poor baby.

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

He did not say that only blacks can be African.

He is saying that if you have black skin, you are of African decent.

It's like saying - you know I am an amphibian because I am a frog,

That is not the same as saying all amphibians a frogs. Got it?

If a frog gets kidnapped , moved to a different area and enslaved, it's future offspring will still be amphibians.

did you just say hyperbole? wrote:

Humping jumping black panther power wrote:

That's the world we live in now. You are allowed to say anything disparaging about whites, but absolutely do not even hint anything but praise and wondrous hyperbole regarding other races. This is good race relations building. That and forced integration and policies that force companies to give other races a job only because of their race. Talent, right fit, and qualifications be damned. It's all good. All heading towards the right direction.

So he's not allowed to be proud of being African and black?

Just think if someone said how proud they were to be white after winning a race. Let that sink in. It's very much a double standard. For context, I'm a naturalized American born in Bolivia.

I don't think that this quote means what you think it means and I know that it does not entail what you think it entails. On the one hand, you could interpret it to mean that what he is is African (identifying himself with his continent), not black per se--in other words, that would mean that he is rejecting any racial identification based on skin color in favor of a broader identification with those who live in Africa. On that reading, he is denying a racial identification of being an African and opening up the designation to anyone else from there. On the other hand, and I think this interpretation is actually less likely, you could say that it means that his skin color identifies him as African, but that still would not be an exclusive designation, because there might well be others with different skin color who could also have the same designation. As a factual matter, sub-Saharan peoples were traditionally black or brown, of course, prior to European colonization and still the vast majority are--in fact, there are probably fewer of Asian or European ancestry in sub Saharan Africa now--certainly as a proportion of the population--than in colonial days. But that is not the case and was not the case for North Africa and there obviously remain millions of non-black people in sub Saharan Africa as well.

correct thinking update wrote:

Just imagine if any non-black had said something similar about where they're from.

"“It’s very important (to become the African champ)… because now you see my color… I’m African."

So let me get this straight. Africans can adopt any nationality in the world, but only blacks can be African. Is that the current "correct thinking"?

Coevett wrote:

Are you reading these threads Weldon?

I hope he is. And that you get banned soon.

vivalarepublica wrote:

Quote for context please?

I see nothing whatsoever that is nefarious in that interview. Manangoi is speaking in his second language and his English is a little shaky, not nearly as shaky as my other languages, mind you, but shaky enough to be not all that precise. As far as I can tell, he really does not mean anything other than that he is proud to be African and African champion, as well as proud of being Kenyan, as he says, and he is not seeking to exclude anyone of anything, not even to exclude the 1500m title from his training partner, though he ended up taking the victory.