Coevett wrote:
2. As for him being an age cheat, I guess he could be 16 as I mean look at Ingebrigtsen he's a teen phenom but I was on his facebook page and he referred to being in Form 7 in 2013. Most form 7 students are 12 I believe so yo'ud think he'd be 17.
Does anyone know what Rojo is talking about here? I mean, yes, Jakob Ingebrigsten is 17.
Mluvíte anglicky?
Coevett wrote:
I knew one boy at my school who lost his hair at 18 I think, but that was due to traumatic stress. And he wasn't winning world junior nd senior African championships at '16'.and talking about how he needed to bring his mother out of poverty. Nor did he have a craniofacial appearance consistant with heavy hgh usage during puberty. Nor did he come from a country with 60 athletics failed tests in 5 years, including four medalists in the last 8 weeks alone. But hey it's ok because you went to Eight Mile Island High, and everybody in your class was bald by 14.
Cool story dude! Changed my life! Thanks!
Ahoj dude wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Does anyone know what Rojo is talking about here? I mean, yes, Jakob Ingebrigsten is 17.
Mluvíte anglicky?
Hola VivaLaRepulica!
So what was Rojo talking about?
"The form three student at the Kapsait Athletics Secondary School on the West Pokot-Elgeyo Marakwet border said he had reserved his energy for the final kick."
Form three in secondary school is what we call a junior in high school. I take it that he is about to become a form 4 student, as school below form 4 goes until roughly the end of July. I had a Form 4 student in a neighboring country who had been three years ahead of one of our young teachers in primary school. A lot of students have to drop out because their parents can't afford school fees and need them to work on the farm. Sometimes they fail the exams at the end of primary school or don't get into a proper secondary school (there is distance education, where the students get pamphlets and study more on their own in huge classrooms without desks--up to 200 in a class, and there is proper secondary school, with classes more like 45 per, and the students have books and college educated teachers) or fail the exams at the end of form 2 in secondary school a few times, and that is how my colleague went past him, finished secondary school, got a college degree and came back to teach him. So, you can be a form 3 or form 4 student even pushing 30 like my student.
Zakayo is very good. I think that we all said as much after that "U-20" 5000m finish. To even have been competitive in the last lap showed that Ingebrigtsen was really, really good--which we saw with his 3:31 at Monaco. Zakayo certainly proved he is senior-level with this race but it was already clear at under -20s, and there is no way he is under 20. However, he won't be taking medals from real under 20 athletes any more, so there's just the matter of whether he is clean (who knows?).
There sure have been a lot of major busts of Kenyan athletes recently even with their porous, corrupt testing system. Lucy Kabuu was a 2:19:34 marathoner. Asbel Kiprop a 3:26 1500m man. Ruth Jebet (Bahraini in name only, but the Bahraini transfers seem funded to cheat), former WR holder in the steeple at 8:52, which was outrageous at the time, a six second drop, and of course the 2:18:57 marathoner Rita Jeptoo, as well as Olympic champ Jemima Sumgong, a 2:20:41 marathoner.
^ When you evidently know next to nothing, try to keep your posts as short as possible. For example, you’re right Zakayo will soon become a Form Four student ... next January (Kenyan primary and secondary school terms go by calendar year). The average fourth former in Kenya should be 18, give or take a year or two for early starters or those who may have been held back for various reasons such as lack of fees or inadequate grades.
Ingebrigsten was not defeated by two Kenyan under 20s, by the way. He was beaten by two Kenyan under 18s. Stanley Mburu Waithaka, the kid that took it out from 800m to break Barega, is another one who’s age you’ll be second guessing for a long time.
zcxvzxcv wrote:
"The form three student at the Kapsait Athletics Secondary School on the West Pokot-Elgeyo Marakwet border said he had reserved his energy for the final kick."
Form three in secondary school is what we call a junior in high school.
A slight correction my friend, a Form Three in Britain, Australia and New Zealand is the same as the last year in "Middle School" for Americans. BANZ (and probably Ireland) high schools are 5 years. Australia and NZ have changed their years of school from 1-13. Kenya inherited the old British system that is the same.
No need to apologize wrote:
zcxvzxcv wrote:
"The form three student at the Kapsait Athletics Secondary School on the West Pokot-Elgeyo Marakwet border said he had reserved his energy for the final kick."
Form three in secondary school is what we call a junior in high school.
A slight correction my friend, a Form Three in Britain, Australia and New Zealand is the same as the last year in "Middle School" for Americans. BANZ (and probably Ireland) high schools are 5 years. Australia and NZ have changed their years of school from 1-13. Kenya inherited the old British system that is the same.
No. Form Three in Kenya is the same as an American high school junior. Kenya abolished A-levels and added an extra year to primary school. So, it's Standard 1 - 8 of primary school followed by Form 1 - 4 of secondary/high school.
He's certainly more outgoing than most Kenyan athletes. I'm sure he'd be open to interviews. Here he is celebrating his win at the African champs. The new Ezekiel Kemboi?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIeGE2lFtz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
El Keniano wrote:
He's certainly more outgoing than most Kenyan athletes. I'm sure he'd be open to interviews. Here he is celebrating his win at the African champs. The new Ezekiel Kemboi?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIeGE2lFtz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
No, kemboi wasn't likeable. This guy is brilliant^^
Coevett wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
I mean... I started balding and growing a full biker beard at 13. And I’m not an age cheat or on the roids. And I know many other who were balder than him by the age of 18. They too were not on the roids or age cheats.
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I knew one boy at my school who lost his hair at 18 I think, but that was due to traumatic stress. And he wasn't winning world junior nd senior African championships at '16'.and talking about how he needed to bring his mother out of poverty. Nor did he have a craniofacial appearance consistant with heavy hgh usage during puberty. Nor did he come from a country with 60 athletics failed tests in 5 years, including four medalists in the last 8 weeks alone. But hey it's ok because you went to Eight Mile Island High, and everybody in your class was bald by 14.
Yet another sad, hate-filled post by Coevett. Please get help.
FrenchDawg wrote:
Coevett wrote:
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I knew one boy at my school who lost his hair at 18 I think, but that was due to traumatic stress. And he wasn't winning world junior nd senior African championships at '16'.and talking about how he needed to bring his mother out of poverty. Nor did he have a craniofacial appearance consistant with heavy hgh usage during puberty. Nor did he come from a country with 60 athletics failed tests in 5 years, including four medalists in the last 8 weeks alone. But hey it's ok because you went to Eight Mile Island High, and everybody in your class was bald by 14.
Yet another sad, hate-filled post by Coevett. Please get help.
I don't see how this is 'hate filled' at all. If there were '16 year old' Chinese or Russian athletes turning up running these crazy times and looking so weird, I'm sure there would be outrage here. In fact, I'm pretty sure there would be international outrage.
Seems some of the doping apologists here not only don't care if doping is rampant in Kenya, they don't care if the abuse of child athletes is rampant either. So long as Kenyans keep crossing the line first, they'll just shout racist at anyone who questions any of it.
Still upset your prediction Kenyan times would start crater isn't panning out?
Zakayo>Kemboi wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
He's certainly more outgoing than most Kenyan athletes. I'm sure he'd be open to interviews. Here he is celebrating his win at the African champs. The new Ezekiel Kemboi?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIeGE2lFtz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_linkNo, kemboi wasn't likeable. This guy is brilliant^^
Yeah. Kemboi’s dancing was more about rubbing it in the losers faces.
El Keniano wrote:
Still upset your prediction Kenyan times would start crater isn't panning out?
No, my predictions have all proven correct. Times have continued to decline this season in every track event. As Subway says, EPO has gone to the roads. Even there it seems the depth of elite times is stagnating or diminishing. There have been a few outlier races such as the end of season 5K (in which the Kenyans were trounced) and which had the smack of 'last dance at the EPO party' all over them.
Anyway, next year is the big one. It's where we will see what impact all the busts this season have had (and closure of pharmacies caught selling EPO), as well the WADA lab in Nairobi and the requirement for Kenyans and Ethiopians to have at least 3 out of competition tests. (all thanks to Seb Coe).
The decline in times would be even more staggering if it wasn't for the rapid improvement in shoe technology (no doubt a motivation by the likes of Nike).
Thanks to El K's goading, couldn't resist doing a quick comparison of ranking lists between EPO free for all 1998 and EPO throttling back 2018.
Kenyan athletes in the top 20 end of season rankings.
800 1500 5000
1998 10 9 7
2018 8 5 3
This despite the Kenyan population doubling in size and the young population of the West declining (and declining sharply in Europe).
Of course these stats may look even worse with the inevitable busts coming next year. Three of the top Kenyan 800m runners from 2017 were busted this year.