Official 2018 Rabat DL Live Discussion Thread (live 3-5pm eastern)

Bor more or less matches his PR

Man, El B shut it down.

So there has been a ton of EPO busts in the last year and now 3:33 is winning 1500s, 8:06 is winning DL steeples. Coincidence?

rojo wrote:

So there has been a ton of EPO busts in the last year and now 3:33 is winning 1500s, 8:06 is winning DL steeples. Coincidence?

You nailed it.

What happened to Conseslus? Did he look terrible, or hit three barriers? Or both?

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

One quick thought before the 100m begins: Why has the coverage completely ignored Arthur Cisse? Admittedly, I don't don't expect him to win, but his SB/PB is only a few hundredths off what we might expect for the winning time.

Because he's only broken 10.00 once in his life. Because he didn't even make the finals of world indoors. And because He was only 7th in Paris (after running that 9.94). To be honest, I'd never heard of him. And he finished 8th.

rojo wrote:

So there has been a ton of EPO busts in the last year and now 3:33 is winning 1500s, 8:06 is winning DL steeples. Coincidence?

I wish I could get on board with this line of thought, but we did just witness another 14:20 5k.

rojo wrote:

So there has been a ton of EPO busts in the last year and now 3:33 is winning 1500s, 8:06 is winning DL steeples. Coincidence?

8:06 is a solid winning time, there are only 4 or 5 active athletes who have run that

rojo wrote:

So there has been a ton of EPO busts in the last year and now 3:33 is winning 1500s, 8:06 is winning DL steeples. Coincidence?

Certainly we should draw a lot of assumptions from two events at one Diamond League event missing several of the world's best.

Youtube TV failed me with 400m to go in the steeple.

And also broken during the Croatia/England soccer game the other day.

DO NOT USE YOUTUBE TV is my recommendation.

Cisse, from Cote D'Ivoire, was introduced on the BBC field.

Lyles got a terrible start and was hugely behind before just moving up like nothing in the last 20m, alas too little too late.

He was a good sport about it, though. Coleman I was glad to see did not re-injure his hamstring as far as I know.

3:33s very often win 1500s in the Diamond League (in the past few years, it has typically been quite slow outside of Monaco--and anyway, they just had a 3:29 in Paris, hardly an indication of doping busts having an effect), but when a Moroccan drops that much time you think EPO. As for Centro, this was not competitive, but I'm not at all concerned about that. In his first (?) race back in Europe he dropped 2.8 seconds from his season's best, to low 3:35. He is getting in far better shape. I don't know that he will be ready for much better than 3:33 at Monaco next week, however. It is too soon to be in top shape for him this year.

The BBC feed.

Clerk wrote:

rojo wrote:

Look at the steeple. Tehre is nothing under the water barrier. I thought it was a rule you were supposed to have plants or a screen under the barrier. It's really hard to do without some perspective. ANyone know if it's a rule?

You are correct. Given that we've seen a race with the barriers set at the wrong height, the IAAF needs to audit compliance to their standards a bit better (among other things...)

Here in the Netherlands we never have anything under the water steeple barrier... I also can't seem to find the need for this in the rulebook. As I am technically a referee for track and field here, I would like to know if this is actually a rule and if so, where can I find it? Genuinely curious.

Centro's 3:35.17 is the fastest time by an American this year and by a considerable margin. No one else has broken 3:36.

Also applies to converted miles. Centro's time converts to 3:52.3 and no other American has broken 3:53 this year (including indoor).

rojo wrote:

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

One quick thought before the 100m begins: Why has the coverage completely ignored Arthur Cisse? Admittedly, I don't don't expect him to win, but his SB/PB is only a few hundredths off what we might expect for the winning time.

Because he's only broken 10.00 once in his life. Because he didn't even make the finals of world indoors. And because He was only 7th in Paris (after running that 9.94). To be honest, I'd never heard of him. And he finished 8th.

So the followup question is: what is with his one off race of 9.92 from only a few weeks ago, and how does he possibly go from running that to 10.30 today?

rojo wrote:

Evan Jagermeister wrote:

LetsRun - please specify when the meet is on NBCsports as opposed to Olympic Channel. I have the former and not the latter- I was so crestfallen when I raced (pun intended) home, logged in and found that it was not on NBCS as listed here. Been looking forward to this all week.

I apologize. Jonathan Gault has been fired. That would annoy the hell out of me if I were you.

Do you want a login for my olympic channel? I'm serious. Download the xfinity stream app and I"ll give you my login.

Email me

robertjohnson@letsrun.com

ROJO - thanks for the reply. It was a minor nuisance but just because I’m currently abroad on a long hike without WiFi until I get down into town at night. I ended up finding a stream on some Belgian site in time to catch the 100m and 3k steeple live. Take my frustration as a compliment because I love your site so much that I was simply worried I wouldn’t be able to avoid logging in and seeing the results before I found the races uploaded to YouTube in the next few days.

ps. Jon Gault is my favorite sports writer on the planet. I can’t name 5 NFL players but I relish Gault’s reportage of pro running. He makes it a pleasure to follow the sport, truly.

wejo wrote:

If Shelby Houlihan wants to be a 5000 runner that is what she has to be able to do. Come through in 13:19 and run 14:21. There is NOTHING that has made me think she can do that.

I'd agree, but before Pre, I would have said the same about the 1500. Her record and times were good, but not "she's ready to start whupping on the big girls" good. In March, she was 4-5 seconds behind Muir and Hassan; last week, she ran right by them in a fast race.

Remember, she says she's been training for the 5000m, not the 1500. Her 1500 breakthrough is just an added benefit.

Victor Alexander wrote:

Clerk wrote:

You are correct. Given that we've seen a race with the barriers set at the wrong height, the IAAF needs to audit compliance to their standards a bit better (among other things...)

Here in the Netherlands we never have anything under the water steeple barrier... I also can't seem to find the need for this in the rulebook. As I am technically a referee for track and field here, I would like to know if this is actually a rule and if so, where can I find it? Genuinely curious.

I was wrong! You are correct. I first thought it may be an IAAF/National Federation difference, but I looked at the facilities manual on

. Very specific instructions for width, height, depth of the water pit, even specific instructions for black and white paint on the barriers, but no instruction for any kind of sunshine/glare blocker underneath the barrier

You guys DO realize that Centro is running Monaco next week right? This was a controlled 3:35 to preface the American record attempt. He could have easily went with the lead group but decided to play it cool and save a little for next week.