Anakin Skywalker of the 400 wrote:
So is this dude able to just take a week off and run 46.1?
This is insane.
Cooper didn't take a week off, he was busy running from the cops. Got a lot of practise in over the past couple of months doing that.
Anakin Skywalker of the 400 wrote:
So is this dude able to just take a week off and run 46.1?
This is insane.
Cooper didn't take a week off, he was busy running from the cops. Got a lot of practise in over the past couple of months doing that.
AaronHernandezIsWorse wrote:
You mean Michael Vick.
Aaron Hernandez was sentenced to jail for life and committed suicide.
He knows that genius. He was clearly saying unless you’re Hernandez, hence kill dogs and you CAN play for the eagles. We all knew he meant Vick there....so dumb. ....
Anakin Skywalker of the 400 wrote:
So is this dude able to just take a week off and run 46.1?
This is insane.
What does taking a week off have to do with anything? Idiot......
Gucci gang new chain wrote:
Hopefully he can learn from his mistakes. We'll see his true colors in the future. I wish him all the best and hope he makes good decisions going forward.
Oh come on - this is silly and such an antiquated way of thinking! No one makes bad decision or mistakes anymore and especially not athletes. If they do it was because they had an untreated mental illness like anxiety or a neurological disorder caused by their sport like CTE. They need compassion and no accountability for their actions.
Posters on letsrun seem angry the lad is not going to do years of hard time.
Without needing to read police reports, this is what happened:
1) Law enforcement wrote reports. They thought they wrote air tight reports.
2) Prosecutors took law enforcement's word that reports were accurate.
3) Criminal defense attorneys found obvious flaws in police reports.
4) So cops would not be exposed as lazy or liars; so prosecutors would not be exposed as stupid or lazy, an outcome far different than initial news reports.
5) What I have described is what occurs in county/state courts in US on a daily basis.
Shoebacca wrote:
Remember when Cam Newton stole all those laptops? Being a star athlete who gets free college and a professional sports career has a way of making everything better.
You mean the ONE laptop that resulted in him being arrested, given the same sentence as any first time offender, kicked off the UF team, having to play JUCO and work his way back to D1?
This kid will be protected and coddled at FSU as long as he produces on the field with yards, tds and returns. Maybe he’ll run some track if he is sweetalked by the sprint coach man of god. However, if he does not produce, the drug tests and the troublesome decisions will conveniently appear and he will be dismissed. Sad but true for that place.
How these things work wrote:
Posters on letsrun seem angry the lad is not going to do years of hard time.
Without needing to read police reports, this is what happened:
1) Law enforcement wrote reports. They thought they wrote air tight reports.
2) Prosecutors took law enforcement's word that reports were accurate.
3) Criminal defense attorneys found obvious flaws in police reports.
4) So cops would not be exposed as lazy or liars; so prosecutors would not be exposed as stupid or lazy, an outcome far different than initial news reports.
5) What I have described is what occurs in county/state courts in US on a daily basis.
A defense attorney may have never seen discovery in this case. The case didn't get very far. There was no indictment. Further, a Circuit Court (typically) cannot dismiss a charge on its own, contrary to how it is depicted in some of the articles. A defense attorney can also almost never get a charge dismissed pre-trial unless there are real procedural problems or prosecutorial misconduct. It's not like a civil case where cases are dismissed all the time pre-trial or done away with on a motion for summary judgment.
There is a good chance that the government moved to dismiss the charges. This *usually* only happens when a case has real problems (such as a lack of ADMISSIBLE evidence due to law enforcement ignoring chain of custody, etc. - happens all the time) or a prosecutor does not believe the charges can be proven and therefore ethically cannot proceed. It may also happen if there is some sort of diversion program in place that hasn't been disclosed to the public (however this is not likely since these are felony accusations and many prosecutor's offices have policies that don't allow for diversion programs/first-time offender programs on felony accusations).
Law Guy - you are probably right. The kid still could use some guidance to be careful of who he hangs out with. Yes, I get it, he comes from a different circumstance than many who post here. But that shouldn't preclude him making good decisions which are in his interest (no matter the social justice or racial implications) - he is a talented kid - make good decisions. I watched the documentary Last Chance U several times. Most, but not all, of the kids on that East Mississippi football squad were not bad kids (a few were and it showed later if one followed their exploits after the show). They just made dumb mistakes, and had less margin for error than many middle class or upper middle class kids. That show really made me think about our educational system, and how low are expectations are for so many kids, especially kids of color. No need to indulge that some mistake with this young and talented sprinter.
The gist of your post: Law Guy, you are correct; he's a bad kid and needs guidance. The news reporters go to their source. Their source is the Police Communications Officer. Cops often intentionally lie to crime reporters. What was reported initially in the news was not true. No need for your sanctimonious b.s.
Adam in Shorts wrote:
That God is such a kidder.
+1
He'll make a hell of a defense attorney.
No chance defense saw discovery in these cases as charges were not formally filed. Case was dismissed by judge after State Attorney chose to take no action and defense attorney requested a dismissal.
There is no diversion program in this case.
How these things work wrote:
The gist of your post: Law Guy, you are correct; he's a bad kid and needs guidance. The news reporters go to their source. Their source is the Police Communications Officer. Cops often intentionally lie to crime reporters. What was reported initially in the news was not true. No need for your sanctimonious b.s.
Don't worry. He'll be back in the same situation soon enough.
A mulligan wrote:
How these things work wrote:
The gist of your post: Law Guy, you are correct; he's a bad kid and needs guidance. The news reporters go to their source. Their source is the Police Communications Officer. Cops often intentionally lie to crime reporters. What was reported initially in the news was not true. No need for your sanctimonious b.s.
Don't worry. He'll be back in the same situation soon enough.
Keep in mind his long term coach that he was living with was on record as kicking him out of the house because he was running around with the wrong crowd and disrespecting him. It’s my understanding that happened before he started to get in trouble. Why would his longtime mentor kick him out of the house if there wasn’t a real issue?
Hopefully this has been a wake up call, but my money is on MileSplit reporting, with great satisfaction no less ?, Cooper getting in trouble again before he’s graduated college.
Even though I believe bad deeds should not go unpunished, I am not an advocate of jail and a life-long criminal conviction record for a young man always being the answer. Based on everything I have read, it appears to me that Cooper at the very least was hanging out with the wrong crowd and was a party to criminal acts. I wish him well in life, but I am glad he spent some time in jail to send a message that he needs to choose better friends and live a more virtuous life.
Man y'all are ridiculous. The ONLY reason anyone should ever spend any time locked up is because the State proved that he or she committed a crime.
Here, a prosecutor felt the case against him was SO WEAK that it was dismissed before any indictment or preliminary hearing. A person whose job it is to convict criminals took a brief look at the case and was like "Nah." No diversion program, no reduced charges, just a straight up dismissal on the first court date. That is more telling than anything that was released in the press.
"Hanging out with the wrong crowd" might be a bad decision that leads to future criminal behavior, but it is not a crime. Think very carefully about what you want the government to be able to punish people for.
There are thousands of people raped, murdered, assaulted, robbed and killed in drunk driving accidents by law breakers in the country illegally who are not prosecuted because of racial campaign. POS business owners lobby politicians to make a bigger profit paying law breakers under the table while avoiding income taxes, unemployment and workers' comp taxes.
rojo wrote:
1) I most of our very lucky that worst actions at that age don't define us for the rest of our lives.
Wut?
Ivy league, really? wrote:
rojo wrote:
1) I most of our very lucky that worst actions at that age don't define us for the rest of our lives.
Wut?
I corrected it. Here is what I meant to say.
1) I'm certainly glad I wasn't judged by the worst things I did as teenager. I think most males between the ages of 15-25 do some really stupid stuff and most of us are very lucky that our worst actions at that age don't define us for the rest of our lives.
The County Prosecutor Office down there in FL on that day in question were honest men & women. Often prosecutors move forward with cases even though they know cops lie and commit fraud. If cops are lying or altering evidence, prosecutors should dismiss cases. Many assistant prosecutors are in their twenties or thirties. That license to practice law is highly valuable. Do you think prosecutors should risk losing their law license when they know cops have committed fraud? Sometimes prosecutors hold their noses in murder cases and other cases and go along with lying cops. You do poster have sympathy for falsely accused and falsely prosecuted men and women don't you?
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