• wejo
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      • Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/17/2018 8:45PM
      • wejo
        co-founder
      • Editor's note: The contest is over. LetsRun.com co-founder Robert Johnson plus ace staffer Jonathan Gault have tied for 2nd thanks to perfectly predicting the men's 800, 1500 and 3ks 1-2-3 in order.

        I can't believe it but 6 people still have perfect scores including our very own Jonathan Gault.

        Fortunately for us, all but 2 picked Clayton Murphy in the top 3. But Jon and one other guy didn't. They could win the $20,018.

        Check your scores here:
        https://www.letsrun.com/news/20...contest-2/
    • Hhgggghgh
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 8:24AM - in reply to wejo
      • Hhgggghgh
      • Are you kidding me? Legitimate organizations (media and otherwise) often have explicit rules about employees participating in contests sponsored by the organization.
        It open up the organization to charges of fraud, insider information and outright cheating.
        But this is LR. I hope someone makes an FTC complaint
    • redux
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 8:48AM - in reply to Hhgggghgh
      • redux
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      • Hhgggghgh wrote:

        Are you kidding me? Legitimate organizations (media and otherwise) often have explicit rules about employees participating in contests sponsored by the organization.
        It open up the organization to charges of fraud, insider information and outright cheating.
        But this is LR. I hope someone makes an FTC complaint

        Ditto. Clean up your act BrosJo.
    • kmaclam
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 9:06AM - in reply to redux
      • kmaclam
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      • Yeah, this site would be so much more fun if LetsRun was a legitimate organization.
    • vivalarepublica
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 9:32AM - in reply to Hhgggghgh
      • vivalarepublica
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      • Hhgggghgh wrote:

        Are you kidding me? Legitimate organizations (media and otherwise) often have explicit rules about employees participating in contests sponsored by the organization.
        It open up the organization to charges of fraud, insider information and outright cheating.
        But this is LR. I hope someone makes an FTC complaint

        Can letsrun rig the USA champs? If so, I would be impressed.
    • Not the first time
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 9:42AM - in reply to Hhgggghgh
      • Not the first time
      • Hhgggghgh wrote:

        Are you kidding me? Legitimate organizations (media and otherwise) often have explicit rules about employees participating in contests sponsored by the organization.

        It is not the first time a LRC "employee" has managed to win a contest.
    • How much does the policy cost?
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:01AM - in reply to Not the first time
      • How much does the policy cost?
      • When else has this happened?
    • zzzz
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:43AM - in reply to vivalarepublica
      • zzzz
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      • vivalarepublica wrote:

        Hhgggghgh wrote:

        Are you kidding me? Legitimate organizations (media and otherwise) often have explicit rules about employees participating in contests sponsored by the organization.
        It open up the organization to charges of fraud, insider information and outright cheating.
        But this is LR. I hope someone makes an FTC complaint

        Can letsrun rig the USA champs? If so, I would be impressed.

        I think the implication is more that an employee might be able to manipulate picks after seeing the results.

        I don't have a problem with this though. It's LR that would be paying up, so if they trust their employees enough, that's their call. Plus, I didn't bother to enter this time.
    • Wtfbbq
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:50AM - in reply to wejo
      • Wtfbbq
      • Ok.
    • Ggghgghhhh
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:54AM - in reply to zzzz
      • Ggghgghhhh
      • No the implication is that Jon might have access to inside information and not share it

        Say he knew a runner had an issue but promised a source not to disclose it prior to a race. Jon doesn’t want to burn a source. But he uses the info to not pick the runner in the contest.

        That’s cheating. And unethical.

        Most journalists I know try to upload certain standards. Unfortunately Jon has proven he has none.
    • Querfeldein
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:56AM - in reply to wejo
      • Querfeldein
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      • Since the predictions are made in public and ahead of time, and employees have no advance knowledge of the results, there is no reason to exclude employees from the competition.

        I was surprised when I saw the very low number of events - combined with the fact that many events also have small fields and an even smaller number of contenders, getting a perfect score was not completely unrealistic, and the chance that at least one participant might get lucky was actually reasonably high. On the other hand, as you'd have to be crazy to insure a competition with these odds, now we know that LRC actually intend to pay for these contests from their own pockets. I think that's pretty cool.
    • zzzz
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 10:57AM - in reply to Ggghgghhhh
      • zzzz
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      • Ggghgghhhh wrote:

        No the implication is that Jon might have access to inside information and not share it

        Say he knew a runner had an issue but promised a source not to disclose it prior to a race. Jon doesn’t want to burn a source. But he uses the info to not pick the runner in the contest.

        That’s cheating. And unethical.

        Most journalists I know try to upload certain standards. Unfortunately Jon has proven he has none.

        OK, there's that too. I'm not that bothered though. It's LR, and I know what standards they have.
    • Querfeldein
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 11:07AM - in reply to Ggghgghhhh
      • Querfeldein
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      • Ggghgghhhh wrote:
        Say he knew a runner had an issue but promised a source not to disclose it prior to a race. Jon doesn’t want to burn a source. But he uses the info to not pick the runner in the contest.

        Common sense and some basic probability theory says that that's an extremely far-fetched scenario. Accusing Jon of "having no standards" because of it is, frankly, ridiculous.
    • wejo
      co-founder
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 11:53AM - in reply to Not the first time
      • wejo
        co-founder
      • We love playing our own contests and Jon has won one before.

        We explicitly make it clear in the rules we can play. From the contest page:
        "And yes, we can win our own contest. If we beat you, you’ll hear about it for sure. The $20,018 prize is the sole responsibility of LetsRun.com."
    • Hhhgggh
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 12:21PM - in reply to wejo
      • Hhhgggh
      • wejo wrote:

        We love playing our own contests and Jon has won one before.

        We explicitly make it clear in the rules we can play. From the contest page:
        "And yes, we can win our own contest. If we beat you, you’ll hear about it for sure. The $20,018 prize is the sole responsibility of LetsRun.com."

        We all know you have little integrity when it comes to these things. I think it’s worthy of a complaint. I hope you keep all records.

        Can Running Warehouse employeess play?
    • Fhghhhh
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 12:23PM - in reply to Querfeldein
      • Fhghhhh
      • Querfeldein wrote:

        Since the predictions are made in public and ahead of time, and employees have no advance knowledge of the results, there is no reason to exclude employees from the competition.

        I was surprised when I saw the very low number of events - combined with the fact that many events also have small fields and an even smaller number of contenders, getting a perfect score was not completely unrealistic, and the chance that at least one participant might get lucky was actually reasonably high. On the other hand, as you'd have to be crazy to insure a competition with these odds, now we know that LRC actually intend to pay for these contests from their own pockets. I think that's pretty cool.

        They certainly have advanced access to information that could affect the outcome. It’s like insider trading.

        How come 99.9% of the companies/organizations disallow their employees from participating in contests?
    • vivalarepublica
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      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 12:32PM - in reply to Querfeldein
      • vivalarepublica
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      • Querfeldein wrote:

        Since the predictions are made in public and ahead of time, and employees have no advance knowledge of the results, there is no reason to exclude employees from the competition.

        I was surprised when I saw the very low number of events - combined with the fact that many events also have small fields and an even smaller number of contenders, getting a perfect score was not completely unrealistic, and the chance that at least one participant might get lucky was actually reasonably high. On the other hand, as you'd have to be crazy to insure a competition with these odds, now we know that LRC actually intend to pay for these contests from their own pockets. I think that's pretty cool.

        The better odds of this one are probably why the theoretically prize money is much smaller than usual. If I recall, they usually give out 6 figures or so.
    • spornay
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 12:33PM - in reply to Hhhgggh
      • spornay
      • Hhhgggh wrote:

        wejo wrote:

        We love playing our own contests and Jon has won one before.

        We explicitly make it clear in the rules we can play. From the contest page:
        "And yes, we can win our own contest. If we beat you, you’ll hear about it for sure. The $20,018 prize is the sole responsibility of LetsRun.com."

        We all know you have little integrity when it comes to these things. I think it’s worthy of a complaint. I hope you keep all records.

        Can Running Warehouse employeess play?

        I bet you are a hit at parties.
    • wejo
      co-founder
      • RE: Oh sh**!! 6 people including Jonathan Gault have perfect scores in $20,018 Prediction Contest after day 1 2/18/2018 12:40PM - in reply to spornay
      • wejo
        co-founder
      • spornay wrote:

        Hhhgggh wrote:

        wejo wrote:

        We love playing our own contests and Jon has won one before.

        We explicitly make it clear in the rules we can play. From the contest page:
        "And yes, we can win our own contest. If we beat you, you’ll hear about it for sure. The $20,018 prize is the sole responsibility of LetsRun.com."

        We all know you have little integrity when it comes to these things. I think it’s worthy of a complaint. I hope you keep all records.

        Can Running Warehouse employeess play?

        I bet you are a hit at parties.
        I looked it up. Same guy has posted under 4 different names in this thread.