Sleep before Nationals

youpunk I'm a D3 guy too and I feel where you are coming from, but if I won a national title I would be pretty pumped about it. Anyway aside from that do you get sick of these guys at our level that are pretty decent but are total cockoffs? I mean they walk around thinking they are the shit because they are good in D3 but would get demolished racing the D1 studs. I love D3 and I know the work it takes to be good but some of these dudes act like they are the BEST the nation as to offer, someone needs to knock them off of their high horse, come to think of it I'll just do it, I'm done bitching later f***ers!

Let's do a comparison:

2004 NCAA Div I Finals Men's 1500

Finals

1 Chris Mulvaney SR Arkansas 3:44.72 10

2 Nathan Robison JR Brigham Young 3:44.94 8

3 Donald Sage JR Stanford 3:45.03 6

4 Rob Myers SR Ohio State 3:45.17 5

5 Said Ahmed JR Arkansas 3:45.66 4

6 Josh Spiker JR Wisconsin 3:46.26 3

7 Scott McGowan SR Montana 3:46.34 2

8 Adam Davis SR Rice 3:47.18 1

Div III Men's 1500

1 Matt Winkler, Sr, Williams College

3:50.91

Lindsay Stadium record

2 Adam VanNortwick, So, St. Lawrence

3:51.48

3 Ryan Kleimenhagen, Jr,

Wisconsin Platteville 3:51.87

4 Andrew Combs, So, Bowdoin College

3:52.42

5 Dave Bridgewater, Jr,

Keene State College 3:52.53

6 Aaron Dye, So, Nebraska Wesleyan

3:52.92

7 Jeff Weber, So, Hope College 3:53.10

8 Dan Rodriguez, Fr, North Central College

3:53.11

Definitely slower in Div III, but df***inone is telling us that 3:50 wouldn't make top 8 at his Div I school?

Now, Ivy League would crush Div. III? Let's take a look at the Heps 1500 this year:

FINALS

1. Josh Yelsey (Yale), 4:15.51

2. Bruce Hyde (Cornell), 4:15.52

3. Oliver Tassinari (Cornell), 4:15.70

4. Ben True (Dartmouth), 4:15.87

5. Gerry Groothuis (Columbia), 4:16.02

6. Scott Sebens (Penn), 4:16.17

7. Harry Norton (Dartmouth), 4:16.17

8. Jordan Kinley (Brown), 4:16.39

9. Casey Moriarty (Yale), 4:17.57

10. Sam MacKenzie (Cornell), 4:17.59

I understand that this was pathetically slow. Some heats were won in the 3:50-51 range. But the point is that facts are sorely lacking in the div. III trashfest above.

P.S. I was Div. I. I'm just writing as a fan of truth not slander.

OK, so my boyfriend is a really talented Div. III distance runner, 5 time All-American between XC and track events. At this point, it's about 2 weeks before Nationals. Do you think it's reasonable for him to say that I can't sleep over because he really needs good quality sleep at this point? Would you make the same decision for yourself? Is it asking too much for a 125 lb. person to share a twin bed with a 110 lb. person and expect good sleep?

Just curious how some of the runner guys here balance their running and love lives.

within 10 minutes, you'll get a guy who says you can share his bed for the next 2 weeks if you want. Oh wait, I guess I kind of just said it.

I would say a week before is fairly reasonable, not two weeks, but then it depends on his reasons - ask him.

5-time All-America in D3 track and XC, there's not that many guys it could be

i'm sure he really appreciates you taking these kinds of details about your relationship onto a freaking message board

Post a pic and we can tell you if its sleep he really wants.

Sounds reasonable to me and if you truly care for him you will respect his decision.

Lose ten pounds or so.

I definitely know who this is. 5 time Div. III AA, only 125 lbs....

it is quite selfish of you to be debating whether or not to share a bed with him. he probably has big goals, and you are obviosuly getting in the way of them. leave him alone for a while.

I hope he runs badly, that'll teach him. If I was him I would not neglect your needs. I would make love to you until about three days before the race.

Greg Lemond is famous for making love to his wife the night before he won the Cylcling Professional World Championship road race For U.S.A. in 1983. All the great Cycling nations of the World tried and failed to beat one lone American.

Now that's a lover.

Show your boyfriend this post and see what he says.

Sex will help him sleep better.

This is a fine decision on his part. He has probably given up a lot to get to where he is, and I'm guessing he could be close to a national title. He doesn't want to tank a workout or not be rested before the big race and then look back and say 'what if'. I would do the same.

Two words: "Bob Beamon"

Can anyone please explain to me how NOT making love before a big race is a good thing and an act of dedication to the sport?

Making love is an important part of training surely?

It is a low impact way to cross train and the Ultimate stress reliever.

Can you explain the historic significance please?

I never have sex 10 days before an important race but gf gives me a bj every day upto three days before. Kind of a superstition now.

I try and race as often as I can.

If he is going out looking for it, then he would be tired out. He is not, she is laying right next to him! A little bit of intercourse could not hurt, man half an hour max. Plan for it and go to bed earlier. So he could be an All American in track, that is great, but he could do the same thing and still have time to make love. He could catch a cold the day before the meet- should he stay away from all people too? I wonder how a woman would handle this situation if she was the top level athlete and her boyfriend wanted some.....