Galen "2:10 Guy" Rupp could have won NYC!

yes and no.

kam has sub 27 min 10k speed and sub 13min 5000m speed , and wilson has great speed as well as he just showed.

However, he would have been up there, and would have finished no lower than 3rd.

His 10000m speed is a huge weapon in a slow race. He will always, always be a threat in american marathons.

Galen "2:10" Rupp wrote:

With only two athletes just barely breaking into the 2:10:XXs, would Galen "2:10 Guy" Rupp, the expert of running 2:10, come away with the win? I say yes!

Of course he would have. He is arguably the top marathoner on the planet outside of Kipchoge.

This is clear to anyone with a brain.

Galen "2:10" Rupp wrote:

With only two athletes just barely breaking into the 2:10:XXs, would Galen "2:10 Guy" Rupp, the expert of running 2:10, come away with the win? I say yes!

I say no!

GBohannon wrote:

Galen "2:10" Rupp wrote:

With only two athletes just barely breaking into the 2:10:XXs, would Galen "2:10 Guy" Rupp, the expert of running 2:10, come away with the win? I say yes!

Of course he would have. He is arguably the top marathoner on the planet outside of Kipchoge.

This is clear to anyone with a brain.

This has to be sarcasm. a 2:09 is not even close to being a top marathoner. H has a great chance in a slow race, but in a 2:03 race with pacers? dropped by the 15th mile.

Gef Kuiri destroyed him in Boston, so he isn't better than him

Top 5 for 2017

Gef Kirui - Boston, WC

Kipchoge - Berlin

Kipsang - Tokyo, 2nd in New York

Rupp - 2nd Boston, Chicago Marathon

Gef Kam - New York Marathon.

What we are seeing in Marathons recently is the reality of marathon running. Without PEDs (or less of them due to recent WMM out of competition testing), the races go out slower and finish fast, but overall times are slower. This is because with less PEDs, the insane sprint from the gun tactics won't work because the non doped athlete will explode like an actual human being. It works with PEDs because they become inhuman machines.

BTW: I am not saying Rupp is clean, but I do believe he is "within the rules". Not so for untested Africans.

GBohannon wrote:

Galen "2:10" Rupp wrote:

With only two athletes just barely breaking into the 2:10:XXs, would Galen "2:10 Guy" Rupp, the expert of running 2:10, come away with the win? I say yes!

Of course he would have. He is arguably the top marathoner on the planet outside of Kipchoge.

This is clear to anyone with a brain.

Remember the Amsterdam Marathon?

I hate to admit it, but I agree with Scorpion_runners's post this one time.

Rupp woulda been up there with a chance to win; it would've been close. 3rd minimum.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

yes and no.

kam has sub 27 min 10k speed and sub 13min 5000m speed , and wilson has great speed as well as he just showed.

However, he would have been up there, and would have finished no lower than 3rd.

His 10000m speed is a huge weapon in a slow race. He will always, always be a threat in american marathons.

Lets all take a moment here, this is a rare moment of a decent post here by scorpion_runner

Geff Kirui - marathoner of the year for winning 2 slow races? Not buying this. Btw, Kipchoge has 95%+ chances according to betting sites to be awarded the title due to Berlin and Monza. Only a no-brainer would put G.Kirui ahead lol.

Comparing times on different courses/conditions is meaningless.

no testing in Berlin?

He's not even in the top HUNDRED marathoners.

Gotta bee wrote:

Scorpion_runner wrote:

yes and no.

kam has sub 27 min 10k speed and sub 13min 5000m speed , and wilson has great speed as well as he just showed.

However, he would have been up there, and would have finished no lower than 3rd.

His 10000m speed is a huge weapon in a slow race. He will always, always be a threat in american marathons.

Lets all take a moment here, this is a rare moment of a decent post here by scorpion_runner

That where my thoughts exactly!

Agreed, Rupp would have been top 3 for sure, with a legit shot at winning. Given that Kam was slowing a little bit in the last minute or two, compared to Rupp hammering all the way to the line in Chicago, I actually think Rupp could have won. Of course, it could have also ended up like Boston where Rupp gets gapped by about 20 seconds over the final miles, putting him 3rd.

Laughable. wrote:

Geff Kirui - marathoner of the year for winning 2 slow races? Not buying this. Btw, Kipchoge has 95%+ chances according to betting sites to be awarded the title due to Berlin and Monza. Only a no-brainer would put G.Kirui ahead lol.

G. Kirui was the only man this year to win two major marathons. That gets him #1 ranking overall in my opinion.

Sit and kick marathons are back in fashion, just in time for Sir Mo to start his domination.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

yes and no.

kam has sub 27 min 10k speed and sub 13min 5000m speed , and wilson has great speed as well as he just showed.

However, he would have been up there, and would have finished no lower than 3rd.

His 10000m speed is a huge weapon in a slow race. He will always, always be a threat in american marathons.

I agree Rupp would have finished no less than 3rd. With out a doubt, Rupp would have entered Central Park unfazed, the question is could he have covered Kam's break. Kipsang couldn't cover it and I am not sure Rupp could have either. With that said, I am not sure Rupp could not have covered that break either.

My current top 5 right now:

1) Eliud Kipchoge

2) Wilson Kipsang

3) Geoffrey Kirui

4) Daniel Wanjiru

5) Galen Rupp

Kipchoge beats everyone in all types of races. Kipsang is still going strong and, like Kipchoge, has proven himself in fast and tactical races. Kirui has mostly proven himself in slow races, but did run 2:06 in Amsterdam (albeit in 7th and behind Wanjiru). Wanjiru is an unknown in tactical races and Rupp is an unknown in paced races. In a paced race, Wanjiru is a clear favorite over Rupp (and for that matter over Kirui). I wouldn't be as confident picking Rupp over Wanjiru in a tactical race, thus he is ranked lower.

Guye Adola or Geoffrey Kamworor could emerge as marathon stars, but it's too early to say. Kenenisa Bekele is too inconsistent to be top 5 in my opinion, but clearly on a good day he can contend with all but Kipchoge. He is also a smart racer that would probably do well in non-paced marathons. It would be interesting to see him run a race like Boston.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

Of course he would have. He is arguably the top marathoner on the planet outside of Kipchoge.

This is clear to anyone with a brain.

This has to be sarcasm. a 2:09 is not even close to being a top marathoner. H has a great chance in a slow race, but in a 2:03 race with pacers? dropped by the 15th mile.

Gef Kuiri destroyed him in Boston, so he isn't better than him

Top 5 for 2017

Gef Kirui - Boston, WC

Kipchoge - Berlin

Kipsang - Tokyo, 2nd in New York

Rupp - 2nd Boston, Chicago Marathon

Gef Kam - New York Marathon.

Rupp is a 2:09 runner who has and will continue to crush your "superior" 2:04 runners.

Rupp only has some disadvantage in the heat and on hills.

Rupp: 134lbs

Kipsang: 130lbs

Kamworor: 128lbs

Kipchoge: 123lbs

G. Kirui:110lbs