XC coach doing Suicides?

tyuoble wrote:

Genuine question: what is a "suicide"?

Early in the video, the coach describes (accurately) what a suicide drill is:

from the baseline to touch the free throw line,

back to touch the baseline,

baseline to midcourt,

back to baseline,

baseline to *opposite* free throw line,

back to baseline,

baseline to opposite baseline,

back to baseline.

tyuoble wrote:

Genuine question: what is a "suicide"?

Out and back sprints, usually on a basketball court, Sprint, touch the ground, Sprint back.

coachH wrote:

As an XC coach I can say sometimes with the kids we do agility or short, quick explosive work. The reason is that when we train kids for running, all of their movement is going forward, only in one plane. It is good to get some of that lateral movement (side to side) as well as some shorter explosive movement to make sure the athletes are not neglecting any part of their fitness. But, like someone else said, if you are concerned, just ask the coach.

Exactly right.

It's a bummer that your kid got hurt, but the fact that he got hurt doing something as simple as this is a good illustration of why it is important for XC athletes to train in all the planes of motion.

Woodshed Jimmy wrote:

Have you considered taking the coach to back of the school, and settling your disagreement like men? Just a thought.

Used to do these after HS basketball practice tell I thought I would die. If one person didn't make time, we did another. We were about to kill a kid or two that made us do a bunch of extras.

Damn I loved suicides in basketball season. Probably the reason I could run XC so well too. Parents are weak these days.

Do east africans do suicides? Hell no. Period. And they are the best XC and steeplechase runners in the world.

Suicides mimic the action and movement of players going after loose balls, and picking up the ball to go on a fast break, etc. The drill teaches the body to be faster and stronger at it on the court.

S H I T that isn't used in running.

Doing suicides can lead to all types of injuries for a runner, because it's stop and go and multi-directional. That can create a ligament tear, tendon tear, etc. WE RUN IN ONE DIRECTION AS RUNNERS< AND WE DON"T DO SUDDEN STOPS AND MULTI-DIRECTIONAL movements.

If a track coach has a runner doing suicide drills, either get that coach removed, or remove your kid from the program. plain and simple.

Obviously if your kid gets hurt it's the coach's fault and you should raise a fuss about it and try to get him fired. Injuries never happen accidentally.

scorpion_runner wrote:

If a track coach has a runner doing suicide drills, either get that coach removed, or remove your kid from the program. plain and simple.

yeah sure...lol

scorpion_runner wrote:

Do east africans do suicides? Hell no. Period. And they are the best XC and steeplechase runners in the world.

Suicides mimic the action and movement of players going after loose balls, and picking up the ball to go on a fast break, etc. The drill teaches the body to be faster and stronger at it on the court.

S H I T that isn't used in running.

Doing suicides can lead to all types of injuries for a runner, because it's stop and go and multi-directional. That can create a ligament tear, tendon tear, etc. WE RUN IN ONE DIRECTION AS RUNNERS< AND WE DON"T DO SUDDEN STOPS AND MULTI-DIRECTIONAL movements.

If a track coach has a runner doing suicide drills, either get that coach removed, or remove your kid from the program. plain and simple.

You do remember this is high school running right? Young athletes who are still growing actually SHOULD be exposed to multiple stressors to condition and develop them. Don't take a 13 year old kid and train him like a 19 year old who has dedicated himself to one sport for high level competition and shown a proclivity for it.

Nothing wrong with suicides. Most likely they served 3 purposes: conditioning indoors, evaluating speed and effort and heart of young athletes, instilling competition.

I'd say coach did the kid a favor by exposing weak hip flexors. Now he can concentrate on strengthening them. And the dad can decide if he wants to support his son to grow into a man or continue to be a little boy reliant on daddy. Tough times. Joaquin Cruz used to do shucide drills plenty

Woodshed Jimmy admirer wrote:

Woodshed Jimmy wrote:

Have you considered taking the coach to back of the school, and settling your disagreement like men? Just a thought.

Don't be pvssies, go nail his wife (or husband).