This.
There are a ton of guys that graduated and inherited a book of business from their dad's company, or were hired by the family firm.
This.
There are a ton of guys that graduated and inherited a book of business from their dad's company, or were hired by the family firm.
None whatsoever. All four of my military deferments were earned by the sweat of my brow. The fifth was for heel spurs caused by my beloved Guccis which I had grown out of but couldn't give up as they were my "get lucky" shoes. Believe me was worth it yugely to make me what I am today.
ya..... wrote:
Being born white gave me far more privileges than having money. Very few places in society take your wealth into consideration (having parents be donors to a school is one of those areas), but showing up white to every job interview, rental interview, car dealership, and bank has given me far more return than money sitting in a bank.
This is the correct answer.
This has got to be a troll. Disregarding race (different topic) wealth has a huge impact. No ones saying its impossible for poor people or guaranteed for rich people to become successful, but there's a huge advantage.Lets say someones parents pays for their college, gives them a car, and pays for car insurance for a while. That's not even considered much assistance for a wealthy family. That's likely almost a grand a month that the college grad is not paying and aren't incurring interest on (the loans). They can save at a way higher rate early on an compound that.Probably a bigger advantage that someone mentioned is the safety net and freedom to take chances. That's harder to quantify though.
Backwards looking wrote:
This thread is a great example of why trump the election.
White (wealthy) people have no advantages over anyone else
In fact affirmative action makes life harder for whites
I suggest you liberal snowflakes take your tears somewhere else
ya..... wrote:
Being born white gave me far more privileges than having money. Very few places in society take your wealth into consideration (having parents be donors to a school is one of those areas), but showing up white to every job interview, rental interview, car dealership, and bank has given me far more return than money sitting in a bank.
When were you born? 1900? This is another BS troll. Go to any of those job locations and see if "only white" need apply? I don't think so.
BS, BS go hide on some other forum.
Lol we found LIBERAL idiot #2
Explain?
Backwards looking wrote:
markschultz26 wrote:This has got to be a troll. Disregarding race (different topic) wealth has a huge impact. No ones saying its impossible for poor people or guaranteed for rich people to become successful, but there's a huge advantage.
Lets say someones parents pays for their college, gives them a car, and pays for car insurance for a while. That's not even considered much assistance for a wealthy family. That's likely almost a grand a month that the college grad is not paying and aren't incurring interest on (the loans). They can save at a way higher rate early on an compound that.
Probably a bigger advantage that someone mentioned is the safety net and freedom to take chances. That's harder to quantify though.
Lol we found LIBERAL idiot #2
bobby sacamano wrote:
then I'd accept that.
Those are the main ways to be a man. I would consider others if you want to provide them.
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This is some of the most noisome crap on this board. What qualifies you to be the arbiter of what is "real" in any sense of the word?
10/10 for some solid trolling.
Dude is just trying to hijack a thread with a very old post from Flagpole.
I did NOT grow up wealthy, at all, but my grandparents on my father's side had money. So I had some fairly rich people, related to me, who I got to spend time with--even though my parents didn't have money, and even though I was the townie in a local day school where I was skiing on ungainly hand-me-down skis and riding my bike to school, as a HS student, while the other kids had brand new skis, BMWs, etc.
But I had rich grandparents who lived on Sutton Place South on the East Side of Manhattan, ate caviar with cocktails, and had a condo in St. Thomas.
One advantage I received is that my grandparents paid my college tuition plus room and board. They wrote a check. My parents contributed nothing. I cleaned bathrooms in order to make spending money. Weird, I know.
A second advantage: my grandmother shopped at Lobel's, a swanky butcher in NYC, and sent home what my mother called "CARE packages" of veal cutlets, shell steaks, etc. We couldn't afford any of that stuff--but we sure enjoyed cooking and eating it.
Third advantage: every now and then we'd visit my rich grandparents in the city and my grandmother would take us to Saks Fifth Avenue to shop. My mother would take us to Robert Hall and Korvettes for a couple of pairs of pants and a few shirts, once a year, but then we'd have a New York trip and end up with someting from Paul Stuart. Heck, in '75 I had a white disco suit from Saks.
Fourth advantage: once every year or two, usually for somebody's birthday, my grandfather would take us all to the Four Seasons. It was a rare but periodic thing; I probably went there four or five times, all told, through my childhood and adolescence. Swanky as hell. We also went to La Cote Basque at least once, and Twenty-One, and La Toque Blanche. This was hugely helpful to me, because it took away the romance--the idea that rich folks were somehow different from you and me. They're not. They just have more money.
My grandmother, a Russian Jew from Brooklyn, was a peasant woman with money. She'd fly Pan Am first class and steal the little salt shakers. She had a whole drawer of those stolen salt shakers in that Sutton Place apartment. That's a peasant mentality. She was loud, wore fur--real fur, mink and jaguar--and had no class, but she was a warm, real person.
So the main advantage I received was attitudinal. I never had any ambition that involved actually being rich, having a lot of money, and hobnobbing with rich people. I had one foot in the door, thanks to those grandparents, so I didn't feel that rich people were any better than me. I was related to rich people: my grandma and grandpa. Their presence didn't affect my daily life very much; my parents had no extra money, so I had relatively little disposable cash. But we had this trickle from the grandparents, and their presence in our lives meant that I felt just fine about being where I was.
When I got to Princeton, of course, I suddenly realized that there was a whole world of rich preppies, true children of privilege, that I'd never encountered and knew nothing about. They had the eating clubs, a whole way of relating to each other and to the Lesser Tribes of plebes like me, and suddenly my eyes opened.
Growing up I was running wealthy. I had a couple really good family members that ran well. My parents always supplied us with decent shoes for running. I was able to train with college runners over the summers while in HS. I think a lot of my success was from being able to see what good and great runners were doing while I was young. I have always told people it was easier for me to get good because of the people I grew up around.
snow blow wrote:
ya..... wrote:Being born white gave me far more privileges than having money. Very few places in society take your wealth into consideration (having parents be donors to a school is one of those areas), but showing up white to every job interview, rental interview, car dealership, and bank has given me far more return than money sitting in a bank.
This is the correct answer.
Right. Cause black people from wealth have a harder time than white people from poverty. Totally the case. Not being sarcastic at all. You're all super smart. And logical.
Blue Devil Marathoner wrote:
For those who grew up wealthy, I'm wondering what you perceive to be the greatest advantage your wealthy upbringing afforded you.
For me, I was accepted as a legacy to my father's school (Duke) despite a 3.1 high school GPA and 1190 SAT score.
Anyone else?
Safety net. Literally never worrying about running out of money lets you try whatever you want. Makes being successful a lot easier because there is no fear of failure, just fear of embarrassment.
Being white helps, but being rich is much better.
snow blow wrote:
ya..... wrote:Being born white gave me far more privileges than having money. Very few places in society take your wealth into consideration (having parents be donors to a school is one of those areas), but showing up white to every job interview, rental interview, car dealership, and bank has given me far more return than money sitting in a bank.
This is the correct answer.
What's with all of the self loathing white people?
Many rich people are not like the OP. They absolutely refuse to believe their wealth gave them a leg up. Some create a myth of meritocracy ("being a legacy only helped a tiny bit with college admissions" or "I could have easily gotten a job at any number of law firms"). Others blame race for their unearned success, and then go about creating policies that keep middle class whites in their place.
Writing from the opposite scenario, I was raised in a lower middle class family. Mom worked part time as a nurse, until her back gave out and forced a very early medical retirement (with tiny medical pension given her part time work status). Dad worked in a low-moderate paying job (social worker). I had three siblings competing for attention and stuff. So I didn't have any advantages associated with material wealth. The advantage that I DID have over many friends and colleagues is that I was raised in a happy, safe family environment. I felt loved and protected, and as such I grew with few if any significant psychological scars, and enjoy a largely very happy adulthood.
I had no idea then, maybe some of you have no idea now, how much influence your very early social environment has on your later mental health. I feel like I dodged a bullet, being raised in a happy home.
ubgug wrote:
What's up with going to a fancy school if you are stupid? Do employers really employ dumb people with fancy degrees?
Yes, they do. Unless you have other unmistakable talents, obvious on paper, you've got nearly a zero percent chance of getting a good job over a dumb person with a fancy degree.
snow blow wrote:
ya..... wrote:Being born white gave me far more privileges than having money. Very few places in society take your wealth into consideration (having parents be donors to a school is one of those areas), but showing up white to every job interview, rental interview, car dealership, and bank has given me far more return than money sitting in a bank.
This is the correct answer.
Don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I'm laughing at your confidence and ignorance (which is a deadly combo), yet crying because I pity you and others that think like you.
Backwards looking wrote:
This thread is a great example of why trump the election.
White (wealthy) people have no advantages over anyone else
No.
This thread is a great example of how few truly wealthy people there are-- and how few of them are posting on Letsrun.
I went to a top notch private high school with some very wealthy people, i.e., the sort of people whose parents own professional sports teams or a nationwide chain of restaurants. The "middle class" in this school were the children of working professionals, i.e., the lawyers and the doctors who merely earned several 100k$ a year but had to get out of bed every morning to earn it.
The children of the extremely rich were noticeably less driven in high school. They were the ones who were getting in trouble for drug use or simply not doing any school work but relying upon, e.g., daddy donating a indoor batting facility to stay in school.
As you might expect, the children of the working professionals copied their parents and were-- for the most part-- young adults. They worked hard, devoted themselves to their studies, etc.
It has been 30 years. For the most part-- the children of the working professionals have themselves become working professionals. Many of them stayed in their parents' professions and leveraged their parental work in their own careers. Working in daddy's law firm means never having to go through the grind of the big law firms to become a successful lawyer. Joining daddy's dental practice means never having to look for customers or take out big loans to buy equipment.
The children of the truly rich got their heads screwed on right over time and all pursued high risk-high reward opportunities. One started a cell phone company. Another became a property developer. They could afford to hire the working professional lawyers/engineers/consultants who are necessary to do these things right. They made a living simply by providing money to the right people.
Anyone who thinks that either group did not have an advantage is an idiot.
rojo wrote:
Blue Devil Marathoner wrote:For those who grew up wealthy, I'm wondering what you perceive to be the greatest advantage your wealthy upbringing afforded you.
For me, I was accepted as a legacy to my father's school (Duke) despite a 3.1 high school GPA and 1190 SAT score.
Anyone else?
Now that's amazing. What year did you go to Duke? It must have been a LONG time ago or your parents much have been MAJOR MAJOR donors.
Love the shock here. Rojo why didn't you participate in this thread? You don't have any advantages?
Most noticeable advantage: growing up white. Even in college, my non white friends would get stopped on campus and have their school IDs checked regularly. Perception is everything when you can do no wrong, can say whatever you want, and don't have to prove yourself to anyone because it's assumed you know what you're talking about.
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