Tonto wrote:
Q 4 U wrote:The Lone Ranger?
No. Walker. He's one of us.
You mean the walking Texas Ranger, Yu Darvish? lol
Tonto wrote:
Q 4 U wrote:The Lone Ranger?
No. Walker. He's one of us.
You mean the walking Texas Ranger, Yu Darvish? lol
Complaints? Of what kind?You'd have to know that the suspect had an open warrant, by knowing 100% who he was ahead of time and that he was being sought after. Or you ran a plate that came back with their name and then the warrant pops up in the LEIN. Sorry, I know this for a fact. If a white person can go door to door with a business card, and it's legal in that neighborhood, then a police officer has no right to ask anything. In some jurisdictions you cannot knock on the door or ring the doorbell, you have to leave it on the outside of the door (I don't know about Texas).If the 2 young men did nothing wrong, then why were people calling? Anyone who would have called would have done so for what reason? They had a truck and lawnmowers. Obviously they had mowed someone's lawn in that neighborhood, so where's the suspicion? Warrant or not, he's under no obligation to give information. That is his right and the officer knew that. If citizens didn't have that right, officers would be free to force you to answer any and all questions or risk going to jail. The officer never said turn around there is an outstanding warrant for your arrest. In addition, up until that point, the officer did nothing wrong, as it's not illegal for him to ask, he can ask all he wants and they do because many people freely give information that is not required of them...which is their choice to do so, but it's not required by law. For the officer to pull out handcuffs is over the top, in my opinion. The young men did not try to flee (backing up is not fleeing) and one openly said he's filming. The officer's actions were not that of a fair and honorable police officer, in my professional opinion. Carry on.
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Disgraceful wrote:You think they should just arrest everyone they don't like the look of and try and find out later if there is a warrant to arrest them?
Police cannot be allowed to overextend their power.
I really hope one day one of these cop supporters are the victim of a wrongly targeted house raids. See how you feel then. You'll be lucky to live to tell the tale. They seem to be happening more frequently.
I'm guessing you missed the part where the officer was responding to complaints. And that the dude had a warrant out for an assault.
exthrower - always there ready to lend a hand and mouth to law enforcement.
Bill Clitton wrote:
exthrower - always there ready to lend a hand and mouth to law enforcement.
HIs ex-wife cheated on him with a black guy. That's the source of his bile.
It would not matter if he had 10 warrants on him. Comprehension is not your forte, is it?
exthrower wrote:
The thug actually had 3 warrants for his arrest....Kudu's to the cop and law enforcement everywhere....Decent, law abiding people like cops....Thugs and criminals hate them....
1. Does the cop have attitude?
A: yes but that is different than racist and the kid should have seen the attitude and not opted to respond in kind
2 attitudes done make a right
2. The kid coulda woulda shoulda kept this mouth shut
A: cop well within civil rights boundaries to initiate public view contact on public property with a dispatch call in effect and a visible Parkin violation. I suppose it would have been cooler to just ti jet and tow their vehicle
3. What to learn?
A: people with outstanding warrants on them ought not to rain and mess with law enforcement and ought not to park illegally - but then stupidity is what causes them to have warrants in the first place
B Race got nothing to to do with this except the kid played the card when it didn't matter and got a lot of attention.
C every single cop in that precinct now knows Marlin Gipson by sight name vehicle address and rap sheet. A lot of attention coming his way after this blows over. Big law takes it time to deal. Just business, nothing personal.
It doesn't matter, the cop cannot demand ID if the person has not committed a crime. If the cop is asked for a business card and name, protocol is NOT to pull out the handcuffs. Two white kids, that's "rarely" going to happen (I didn't say never).It doesn't matter if a call has been placed. If the Officer observes him doing something illegal, then of course, but that's not what happened here. The Officer had already observed them with the lawnmower, he was over-stepping his duties and being a prick. He saw them cutting grass.The was no suspicion of anything. The Office freely admitted that he saw them going door to door and he showed them the business cards that he was putting in and he said "yeah, that's what I'm trying to find out". He showed him his business card, end of conversation.
I have no idea what the complaints were, only that the dude was responding to them apparently.
When he got there, they were uncooperative. If you have nothing to hide, why would you care if an officer asks you who you are and what you're doing? As it turns out, them being uncooperative was indicative of them not wanting any law enforcement knowing who they were because (surprise) at least one was a criminal.
In this case, it seems the process worked. Neighbors saw something suspicious enough to call in, officer responds, has reason to believe something's not right, turns out he's correct.
Where's the problem?
Neighbors called because they were black, and that's it. Accept it and move on.
Two white kids in the same situation (a pick up truck with lawnmowers), no call to the police.
You are under no obligation to answer anything, that's the law and it does not make you uncooperative. The officer was wrong.
If the officer is investigating you need to ID yourself. If the subject has no ID how do you confirm who he is. Do you think criminals are not smart and drive around with lawnmowing equipment to break into houses... your probably a transgender upset because you can't get into the military biiiiiaaatch.
Nothing to do with Race and more to do with attitude.
007 wrote:
Neighbors called because they were black, and that's it. Accept it and move on.
Two white kids in the same situation (a pick up truck with lawnmowers), no call to the police.
You are under no obligation to answer anything, that's the law and it does not make you uncooperative. The officer was wrong.
Repeated for you: even takin all you say as correct, the kid gives false info on his birthdate. That is where he made a mistake and gave officer cause.
It don't really matter, they dropped that false ID charge already, they got him on the outstanding warrant.
The kid fought the law and the law won.
Kid didn't have to respond but he did.
Rme wrote:
If the officer is investigating you need to ID yourself. If the subject has no ID how do you confirm who he is. Do you think criminals are not smart and drive around with lawnmowing equipment to break into houses... your probably a transgender upset because you can't get into the military biiiiiaaatch.
Nothing to do with Race and more to do with attitude.
No, you do not. Learn your rights, sheep.
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Let's pretend you're right. Someone saw a black person in their neighborhood, clutched their pearls, called the cops. What's your utopia? Officer doesn't respond? Officer responds, asks for ID and what they're doing, gets a shady response, then just leaves because 'this is murica, ah got mah rights'?