I could show you a thousand videos if you're wondering why people hate blacks
I could show you a thousand videos if you're wondering why people hate blacks
Equal wrote:
Why didn't you tell all of what happened?
Did the narrative not sound so good when the followup was that a warrant was out for his arrest?
You should change the title of your thread to why criminals don't like the police and authority, you do a disservice to law enforcement and black citizens and black law enforcement officers everywhere.
Truth is, if the police want to abuse their power for whatever reason, they will. I don't want to make this super long, but does he have drugs guns, or anything crazy on his record. The warrant is for making threats and who doesn't make threats. Pending charges for resisting arrest and giving false info, sounds like real criminal right.
Clam Evans wrote:
For the record, there is no law in Texas that requires you to identify yourself unless you are driving or arrested.
Agreed. There is however a law against falsely identifying yourself and providing false info to a police officer in Texas.
So the 'cracker' cop approached the kid in public and the kid couldn't keep his mouth shut and instead gave false info.
End of class
Rufus Jefferson wrote:
The cop is just as much a "gangsta" or thug as the kid. Similar to cracker cops shooting a man in the back from 50 feet away then announcing that he was a felon and the coroner found weed in his system. None of that shittt matters.....the pig was wrong.
Hyperbole and nonsense. The cop did not break the law, the kid did.
If it was "similar" then the cop would have shot him in the back.
Suspect 32 wrote:
Clam Evans wrote:For the record, there is no law in Texas that requires you to identify yourself unless you are driving or arrested.
Agreed. There is however a law against falsely identifying yourself and providing false info to a police officer in Texas.
So the 'cracker' cop approached the kid in public and the kid couldn't keep his mouth shut and instead gave false info.
End of class
Cite the law...
Bobby Hill wrote:
Equal wrote:Why didn't you tell all of what happened?
Did the narrative not sound so good when the followup was that a warrant was out for his arrest?
You should change the title of your thread to why criminals don't like the police and authority, you do a disservice to law enforcement and black citizens and black law enforcement officers everywhere.
Truth is, if the police want to abuse their power for whatever reason, they will. I don't want to make this super long, but does he have drugs guns, or anything crazy on his record. The warrant is for making threats and who doesn't make threats. Pending charges for resisting arrest and giving false info, sounds like real criminal right.
I still ask why the OP didnt tell the whole story like in the Houston Chronicle. This happened days ago and the OP linked to the Twitter video and not any of the surrounding story.
People don't understand you can get a traffic ticket and sign it and acknowledge it even though you don't agree with it, but if you refuse to sign it they can take you to jail. People are always taking small stuff and making it worse on themselves. This guy should have showed up to court. He didn't and ten had 18 months to turn himself in but didn't. An incident like this was gonna come for him sooner or later because he didn't man up and face responsibility.
There is a lot wrong in this country but this kid and incident is the wrong example and poster child for any of that.
Cry wolf too often and soon nobody cares
Equal wrote:
I still ask why the OP didnt tell the whole story like in the Houston Chronicle. This happened days ago and the OP linked to the Twitter video and not any of the surrounding story.
People don't understand you can get a traffic ticket and sign it and acknowledge it even though you don't agree with it, but if you refuse to sign it they can take you to jail. People are always taking small stuff and making it worse on themselves. This guy should have showed up to court. He didn't and ten had 18 months to turn himself in but didn't. An incident like this was gonna come for him sooner or later because he didn't man up and face responsibility.
There is a lot wrong in this country but this kid and incident is the wrong example and poster child for any of that.
Cry wolf too often and soon nobody cares
The police violated his rights. It doesn't matter if the guy should have shown up to court or if he is a good poster child. Civil rights are available to everybody.
It's a law. He was detained and gave false birthdate/age. If he'd kept his
mouth shut the officer had nothing. Because he did this when there was a fugitive warrant out for him it will be a harsher punishment.
You and I may not like the law. We may not like the cop's approach. But in Texas it's the law. Know the law when you verbally spar with law enforcement.
Suspect32 wrote:
http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-38-02.htmlIt's a law. He was detained and gave false birthdate/age. If he'd kept his
mouth shut the officer had nothing. Because he did this when there was a fugitive warrant out for him it will be a harsher punishment.
You and I may not like the law. We may not like the cop's approach. But in Texas it's the law. Know the law when you verbally spar with law enforcement.
How was he detained? Did this officer have reasonable suspicion that he was engaged in or about to be engaged in a crime?
Everything about this video screams consensual encounter, not detention.
What right did the police violate?
A lot of times the police make mistakes and sometimes act intentionally as to violate civil rights and do great bodily and societal harm. And that should be dealt with severely and swiftly. And it needs to stop and become less than what it is nowadays. But this is not a case of that, so stop trying to trump this into something it's not, just wait a day or two and a legit case to be outraged will occur. Sadly and tragically we all know this to be true.
Suspect32 wrote:
http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-38-02.htmlIt's a law. He was detained and gave false birthdate/age.
He was not detained.
Bobby Hill wrote:
Truth is, if the police want to abuse their power for whatever reason, they will. I don't want to make this super long, but does he have drugs guns, or anything crazy on his record. The warrant is for making threats and who doesn't make threats. Pending charges for resisting arrest and giving false info, sounds like real criminal right.
Solid legal argument there, Bobby Hill. "Who doesn't make threats". Pure legal genius.
Equal wrote:
What right did the police violate?
They assaulted this guy. They also arrested him on trumped-up charges.
They also arrested the two other guys with him, who had not committed any offense.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
Suspect32 wrote:http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-38-02.htmlIt's a law. He was detained and gave false birthdate/age. If he'd kept his
mouth shut the officer had nothing. Because he did this when there was a fugitive warrant out for him it will be a harsher punishment.
You and I may not like the law. We may not like the cop's approach. But in Texas it's the law. Know the law when you verbally spar with law enforcement.
How was he detained? Did this officer have reasonable suspicion that he was engaged in or about to be engaged in a crime?
Everything about this video screams consensual encounter, not detention.
That's what the court case will be for right? And "everything"in court will likely include the testimony of the officer and the dispatch officer who sent him and the caller who complained to the dispatcher and the testimony of the detectives investigating breakins in the neighborhood.
Ironic everyone screaming that the officer did not apply the process fairly but don't want to go through the process of neutral judge and jury giving the kid and officer a hearing and rule on this.
Let's revisit in a few months and see what the ruling is. I'll abide by it either way and prefer it to just the kids partial video or just the officers version.
Fair enough.
Rufus Jefferson wrote:
This type of thing happens EVERYDAY! White cops harassing black men for no reason.
Check out @Elguxop_Marly's Tweet:
https://twitter.com/Elguxop_Marly/status/889572330787270657?s=09
Thats about as free as marketing for your business can get lol. Just imagine all the black folk who called him up the next day.
I agree with many of the other sentiments in this thread though. Neither party handled the situation with any form of respect or professionalism.
Suspect32 wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:How was he detained? Did this officer have reasonable suspicion that he was engaged in or about to be engaged in a crime?
Everything about this video screams consensual encounter, not detention.
That's what the court case will be for right? And "everything"in court will likely include the testimony of the officer and the dispatch officer who sent him and the caller who complained to the dispatcher and the testimony of the detectives investigating breakins in the neighborhood.
Ironic everyone screaming that the officer did not apply the process fairly but don't want to go through the process of neutral judge and jury giving the kid and officer a hearing and rule on this.
Let's revisit in a few months and see what the ruling is. I'll abide by it either way and prefer it to just the kids partial video or just the officers version.
Fair enough.
Yeah, court processes are always fair and even-handed when evaluating the actions of cops...
Pigs = Trouble
If you want problems in your life, get lowlife pigs involved. A poster before me had it right.....say NOTHING to the cops. You have the right to remain silent. Do so. The pigs are not your friends. They are there to detain you, fine you, and make your life miserable. They are the lowest form of life on planet Earth.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
Suspect32 wrote:That's what the court case will be for right? And "everything"in court will likely include the testimony of the officer and the dispatch officer who sent him and the caller who complained to the dispatcher and the testimony of the detectives investigating breakins in the neighborhood.
Ironic everyone screaming that the officer did not apply the process fairly but don't want to go through the process of neutral judge and jury giving the kid and officer a hearing and rule on this.
Let's revisit in a few months and see what the ruling is. I'll abide by it either way and prefer it to just the kids partial video or just the officers version.
Fair enough.
Yeah, court processes are always fair and even-handed when evaluating the actions of cops...
I am 2/3 in criminal and 0/1 in civil. But I feel overall the criminal justice system works very well