How would Eliud Kipchoge do if he stepped back on the track?

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6 years ago 06/02/2017 5:35am EDT

re: afterearth

afterearth wrote:
Evdawg wrote:
Nah, look at Bekele's participation in track in recent years, pretty much nonexistent. His kick's aren't as good, his overall speed in the 5k and 10k aren't close to how they were. They've both progressed to a longer distance focus in the marathon.
Did you miss how Bekele outkicked the best kicker on the track (Farah) at the Great North Run? Seems like his kick is just fine.

He left him with approx a mile to go and held on

You might have a point if this was not over double the track distances

6 years ago 06/02/2017 9:08am EDT

re: Too low

Too low wrote:
Great point except.... wrote:
Sorry, I'm assuming he doesn't get a Nike Tesla to drive around the track and break the win for him.
The Tesla wasn't really helping with the wind, it was the pacers. You know, kinda like you get in a 10k.

Sorry, I didn't know you get a pacing gig of 7 people chauffeuring you the whole 10,000m on a track. And no, the Tesla car definitely helped out quite a bit. A little due to drafting and because the pacers knew exactly what pace they needed to be on.

6 years ago 06/02/2017 3:06pm EDT

re: Especulation

It is common knowledge that Kipchoge is a 3000-5000 guy who lacks the endurance for the 10,000. All of his track 10ks have been abysmal failures. His success in the marathon only proves what we have known all along... that the track stars are and always have been on a completely different level than the marathon specialists. Tergat, Geb, Bekele, and now Kipchoge have all "magically" had huge resurgences upon moving up to the marathon after they were clearly well past their primes on the track. This is because the marathon is and always has been full of B-level athletes and washed up A-level athletes in the twilight of their careers.

Kipchoge has been so successful in the marathon thus far simply because he is younger and less washed up than Geb and Tergat were when they started marathoning. But if he stepped back on the track, he would be unable to break 13 in the 5k with pacers in perfect conditions. He would also be unable to break 27 in the 10k.

We still have not seen what a prime Geb, Tergat, Bekele, Kipchoge type is capable of in the marathon and we likely never will. The marathon is and always will be a last resort for athletes who are too slow for the track, whether they are a washed up Olympic champion or your typical letsrun dork who knows the guys at the office will be more impressed with their 2:59 marathon than their 17:30 5k. Track is a real sport. The marathon is an emo kid cutting himself.

6 years ago 06/02/2017 6:40pm EDT

re: Especulation

Especulation wrote:
Maybe race a few 5k's and 10k's. Do you think he'd do pretty well or na?

He doesn't have shot at 5 but he should do 10k, I think he can win world and Olympic gold

6 years ago 06/02/2017 11:02pm EDT

re: Bad Wigins

Bad Wigins wrote:
Kipchoge has never shaved his head clean bald. If he did it would give him about a 26:20 shape.
But why would he need to do that? He's already Eliud MF Kipchoge the marathon guy. Nobody but nobody gives a rat's intestines about the 10,000 anymore, except for Historic Hayward Field when Rupp's ready to go.

Rupp's 26:44.36 for 10,000 meters at Hayward Field impressed me, especially given his 5,000 meters PB is 12:58.90.

6 years ago 06/02/2017 11:25pm EDT

re: Rupp fan

Rupp fan wrote:
It is common knowledge that Kipchoge is a 3000-5000 guy who lacks the endurance for the 10,000. All of his track 10ks have been abysmal failures. His success in the marathon only proves what we have known all along... that the track stars are and always have been on a completely different level than the marathon specialists. Tergat, Geb, Bekele, and now Kipchoge have all "magically" had huge resurgences upon moving up to the marathon after they were clearly well past their primes on the track. This is because the marathon is and always has been full of B-level athletes and washed up A-level athletes in the twilight of their careers.
Kipchoge has been so successful in the marathon thus far simply because he is younger and less washed up than Geb and Tergat were when they started marathoning. But if he stepped back on the track, he would be unable to break 13 in the 5k with pacers in perfect conditions. He would also be unable to break 27 in the 10k.
We still have not seen what a prime Geb, Tergat, Bekele, Kipchoge type is capable of in the marathon and we likely never will. The marathon is and always will be a last resort for athletes who are too slow for the track, whether they are a washed up Olympic champion or your typical letsrun dork who knows the guys at the office will be more impressed with their 2:59 marathon than their 17:30 5k. Track is a real sport. The marathon is an emo kid cutting himself.

I've believed this for years, so you are preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. Nonetheless, the typical Monday morning at the water cooler guy will never respect your weekend's fast 5/10K. Instead, you'll have to hear endless crap about some friend named Joe or Pete and his 4+ hour marathon back when.

6 years ago 06/09/2017 12:47pm EDT

re: Rupp fan

Rupp fan wrote:It is common knowledge that Kipchoge is a 3000-5000 guy who lacks the endurance for the 10,000

is this a joke ???

he just ran 2 -flat & nearly broke WR in a tactical duel in london in '16 ???!!!

All of his track 10ks have been abysmal failures

is this a joke ???

read above

he ran 26'49 in jog to 9k off 5k training in his 1st serious 10k !!!

he bombed in '12 trials in eugene likely from injury/illness we have never heard about

& he was struggling in '11 as well

His success in the marathon only proves what we have known all along...

what ?

that the track stars are and always have been on a completely different level than the marathon specialists

is this a joke ???

if a guy ends up running 1"55'00.00 off no 10k pb, you going to claim such nonsense that his 10k track is no better than 27'00 ???

Tergat, Geb, Bekele, and now Kipchoge have all "magically" had huge resurgences upon moving up to the marathon after they were clearly well past their primes on the track

different training

it indicates perhaps even that M training might be better for fastest 10k time than just "pure 10k training" ???

see lopes who morally ran 10k wr in track in '80s & won gold in M in '84 & wr soon after

perhaps he already was mostly training for M when he morally broke 10k wr ???

This is because the marathon is and always has been full of B-level athletes and washed up A-level athletes in the twilight of their careers

utter rubbish

here is a known 5k/10k runner getting crushed at 4 miles

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88_74pGItbM

Kipchoge has been so successful in the marathon thus far simply because he is younger and less washed up than Geb and Tergat were when they started marathoning. But if he stepped back on the track, he would be unable to break 13 in the 5k with pacers in perfect conditions. He would also be unable to break 27 in the 10k

utter joke

he was shadow of himself in '11/'12 probably due to undisclosed illness/injury

he's been fit last 3y & fantastic shape

you think he coudn't break 13 or 27 in his current flat-out shape ???

utter joke

We still have not seen what a prime Geb, Tergat, Bekele, Kipchoge type is capable of in the marathon and we likely never will

is this a joke ???

kid wanjiru, who ran 26'39 off suicidal 13'09 at 18y showed it

you think he was in better 10k shape at 18y or at 21y ???

The marathon is and always will be a last resort for athletes who are too slow for the track, whether they are a washed up Olympic champion or your typical letsrun dork who knows the guys at the office will be more impressed with their 2:59 marathon than their 17:30 5k. Track is a real sport. The marathon is an emo kid cutting himself

utter nonsense

there are only 3 events joe public is interested in track at a games :

100

1500

where is 5 or 10k there ???

6 years ago 06/09/2017 2:26pm EDT

re: Rupp fan

Rupp fan wrote:
It is common knowledge that Kipchoge is a 3000-5000 guy who lacks the endurance for the 10,000. All of his track 10ks have been abysmal failures. His success in the marathon only proves what we have known all along... that the track stars are and always have been on a completely different level than the marathon specialists. Tergat, Geb, Bekele, and now Kipchoge have all "magically" had huge resurgences upon moving up to the marathon after they were clearly well past their primes on the track. This is because the marathon is and always has been full of B-level athletes and washed up A-level athletes in the twilight of their careers.
Kipchoge has been so successful in the marathon thus far simply because he is younger and less washed up than Geb and Tergat were when they started marathoning. But if he stepped back on the track, he would be unable to break 13 in the 5k with pacers in perfect conditions. He would also be unable to break 27 in the 10k.
We still have not seen what a prime Geb, Tergat, Bekele, Kipchoge type is capable of in the marathon and we likely never will. The marathon is and always will be a last resort for athletes who are too slow for the track, whether they are a washed up Olympic champion or your typical letsrun dork who knows the guys at the office will be more impressed with their 2:59 marathon than their 17:30 5k. Track is a real sport. The marathon is an emo kid cutting himself.

LOL yeah Wilson Kipsang is such a B level athlete.

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