anon. wrote:
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anon. wrote:
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Jruns wrote:
This summer I'm starting work on a few things
form
Foot strike - mid foot
endurance - running more mileage than I did last summer 30-35
core 4-5 days a week
Mental toughness - just pushing myself in workouts
I'm thinking Eric Jenkins and Bekele have really good form
if you try to land mid-foot, you will get injured. Other things need to change to allow for natural mid-foot landings.
Sounds like you need to get stronger (i.e lift heavy) and run more
good thread, might be headed for "best of" ?
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=308471
strangely nothing about form in that thread
some people say just run a whole lotta miles and your body will find a decent form, I am not so sure
I try to study the east-african women but they are typically so elite I cannot possibly adapt what they do, sometimes they have the most contradictive arm movements yet run incredibly fast over distance so who knows anymore
My favorite runners with the best form are 1) Bernard Lagat, 2) Wilson Kipsang and 3) Eric jenkins
Rudisha
Lagat
Bekele's a great stride. Seriously, he kicks his ass like a sprinter would with every step yet he's a distance man. Total irony there.
Look to the one with the most WRs
Bekele, in his track days, had the best form of all. Look to the mighty Bekele.
Lagat is great. Centrowitz is great in that his form is so consistent no matter the speed, you never notice him changing gears.
Tsneal wrote:
My favorite runners with the best form are 1) Bernard Lagat, 2) Wilson Kipsang and 3) Eric jenkins
Kipsang has unusually low arm carriage. Like he rolls his shoulders and doesn't swing his arms the full range of motion forward and backward.
NO FUN LEAGUER wrote:
Look to the one with the most WRs
Bekele, in his track days, had the best form of all. Look to the mighty Bekele.
No doubt. GOAT form.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiGCXZZPPUAnyone who really understands long distance running knows that the best flawless form is Kipchoge's. Nough said.
Kipchogeform wrote:
Anyone who really understands long distance running knows that the best flawless form is Kipchoge's. Nough said.
Best? Nah. Flawless. Sure.
You can't (but will...) argue with countless, near effortless 53-second closes off hard pacing. 26:17/12:37, 12x World Cross gold and a 2:03:03. Arms always tight, full swing driving to propel that monster turnover. No wasted upper body motion. No twisting. Just an upright machine on actual wheels.
Kipchoge and Lagat are sublime. Bekele is textbook.
I know there has been a lot of hype about kipchoge recently with him almost breaking a two hour marathon and being the marathon GOAT, but part of me just feels like Beklele could have done that back in his prime. Nothing against kipchoge though, that form last Friday nigh/Saturday morning was nothing short of beutifal.
Here is a good article on bekeles form that was passed on to a thread not to long ago:
https://trackandfieldnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3054
it talks about how the late Ethiopian coach who hammered into his athletes (including bekele) a sprint technique - this explains bekles huge turnover.
I don't think it is right to force those things though just on any run - I think, just as the Ethiopian coach did, change form over time through sprint drills, and just being aware of yourself on every run.
THIS.If you "try" to run a certain way you will run unnaturally and hurt yourself and/or be slower.
brickrunnin wrote:
Jruns wrote:This summer I'm starting work on a few things
form
Foot strike - mid foot
endurance - running more mileage than I did last summer 30-35
core 4-5 days a week
Mental toughness - just pushing myself in workouts
I'm thinking Eric Jenkins and Bekele have really good form
if you try to land mid-foot, you will get injured. Other things need to change to allow for natural mid-foot landings.
Sounds like you need to get stronger (i.e lift heavy) and run more
here is the thread
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7815209
That article reminds me of Sileshi Sihine, one of the greatest 5000m and 10000m runners, just overshadowed by bekele. If the track and field news article is correct, sileshi sihine would probably have had that sprint technique drilled into them. However, Bekele, as his former coach stated, is able to hold that form for not just the last 1 or two laps of a 10000m, but all 25 laps.
also remember reading somewhere(I think this article) that he doesn't listen to music when he runs, he focuses on his technique/surroundings:
http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/BLZHEQ5xznDR731qnUtIeJ/Kenenisa-Bekeles-marathon-dreams.html
It seems like Bekele's beautiful form is not only from talent, but he as well as his coaches have been working for self-improvement on it for years--maybe we can learn something from that.
just always be careful so you don't get injured. Let hill sprints and stuff like that do most of the form-improvement work.
Nick Symmonds. Watch his form and run all your mileage like that and you'll be a 1:42 600 runner in no time.
Lagat is KING !!!
I know Lagat has good form and all, but he failed a drug test (which i'm surprised is not brought up so often). I would rather picture in my head someone like kipchoge to run like, who I can at least naively think has not doped
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