Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

TRUMP DID NOT COLLUDE/CONSPIRE WITH THE RUSSIANS. Please quit saying that lie. Robert Mueller and his crackpot team of investigators found NO Trump-Russian conspiracy/collusion. Please quit repeating this lie.

Here is the NY Times (a far-left rag) declaring that there was NO conpiracy/collusion.

Sally Vix wrote:

TRUMP DID NOT COLLUDE/CONSPIRE WITH THE RUSSIANS. Please quit saying that lie. Robert Mueller and his crackpot team of investigators found NO Trump-Russian conspiracy/collusion. Please quit repeating this lie.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

While Mueller didn't find explicit collusion in the specific action of stealing the election, there were very clearly a significant number of very inappropriate discussions, exchanges of information and deals.

You're hiding behind words. What the Trump team did in Russia (and Ukraine, and China and, and, and) was wrong.

I didn't say that - that's Trump's own lawyer saying that. Talk to Cohen.

But this does sound like collusion to me:

Trump asks for Russian help to win the election by delivering stolen goods to his campaign

The Russians deliver stolen goods to the Trump campaign

Trump welcomes the stolen goods

Trumpers and Trump coordinate with the Russians on timing related to the theft.

Trump fires people investigating the receipt of stolen goods

Multiple Trump staffers lie about receiving the stolen goods and are convicted

Trump pardons the convicted staffers.

Trump says he'd do it all again.

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

TRUMP DID NOT COLLUDE/CONSPIRE WITH THE RUSSIANS. Please quit saying that lie. Robert Mueller and his crackpot team of investigators found NO Trump-Russian conspiracy/collusion. Please quit repeating this lie.

Here is the NY Times (a far-left rag) declaring that there was NO conpiracy/collusion.

us/politics/mueller-report-summary.html

I didn't say that - that's Trump's own lawyer saying that. Talk to Cohen.

But this does sound like collusion to me:

Trump asks for Russian help to win the election by delivering stolen goods to his campaign

The Russians deliver stolen goods to the Trump campaign

Trump welcomes the stolen goods

Trumpers and Trump coordinate with the Russians on timing related to the theft.

Trump fires people investigating the receipt of stolen goods

Multiple Trump staffers lie about receiving the stolen goods and are convicted

Trump pardons the convicted staffers.

Trump says he'd do it all again.

My apologies, agip, for saying you had said that. I was wrong.

Sally Vix wrote:

My apologies, agip, for saying you had said that. I was wrong.

ok cool

8/13 Data

Going in the wrong direction in many ways.

World: Stairstepping every day to new cyclical highs

US: Starting a new upcycle? 7 day average of deaths has risen 5 straight days. But still not as high as August 8.

There was talk of some data quality problems in the post August 8 week ..maybe the drop in deaths did not actually happen.

BZ actually may be improving in a small way. deaths falling back below 1000 per day for one of the first times since June.

The opposite for India - that country has been inching worse almost every day and is now above 1000 deaths per day.

In the four problem states TX FL CA AZ...same trend as the US as a whole. They hit a peak Aug 4, dropped a bit...and have been getting worse for 5 straight days. Bad data last week?

None of the problem states is at new highs for deaths so that's good.

I'll probably add GA to the problem state list. Skyrocketing deaths there: 75 per day now.

So things are getting worse in most places, after a respite of a few days.

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

Even in normal situations,

Something like 10% of mail in ballots are rejected. Trump is going to selectively choose counties in swing states and try to get that number higher with lawyers.

Mail in voting is a f’in disaster and it is going to be a legendary cluster situation in this third world nation. We aren’t good enough to handle it.

The cluster is by design and Dems have failed to address it, as much as Rs have fought hard to complicate the process for voters. Americans don't care enough and they will be too lazy to stand in line long enough to vote. Nov 3rd will be a complete disaster.

If it's a contest of voter enthusiasm, Democrats will win by a landslide.

Just making it harder to vote will not work. Republicans will have to be targeted in their efforts. But they are quite adept at it.

Orator extraordinaire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Kg3-af9cY

Fat hurts wrote:

If it's a contest of voter enthusiasm, Democrats will win by a landslide.

Just making it harder to vote will not work. Republicans will have to be targeted in their efforts. But they are quite adept at it.

In the just released Marist poll far more registered Democrats (62%) than Republicans (32%) said they intended to vote by mail, so crippling mail in ballots by whatever means would seem a targeted effort.

I might be alone in this thought but Michael Cohen is the only Trump criminal who has shown any remorse. He has tried to make amends by serving justice and being honest. I feel bad for him. I think Biden should pardon him some time after election.

CancellLRC wrote:

Orange Demon going to prison when his term is up. IMO his supporters should be there too.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1306204/michael-cohen-disloyal-book-trump-golden-showers-russia/

This combination of interfering with the mail and the senate going on break until after Labor Day while letting unemployment benefits lapse during unusually high unemployment is the makings of a corrupt takeover.

Trying to maintain control when they know the majority does not want them in control.

I really think Trump is trying to emulate Putin and Xi with how they controlled their election results after getting into power.

L L wrote:

This combination of interfering with the mail and the senate going on break until after Labor Day while letting unemployment benefits lapse during unusually high unemployment is the makings of a corrupt takeover.

Trying to maintain control when they know the majority does not want them in control.

I really think Trump is trying to emulate Putin and Xi with how they controlled their election results after getting into power.

It amazes me how many people are not that concerned about what Trump and the Republicans are doing to our democratic process. Sometimes I feel like I am in a house with smoke pouring out of a room and others just going about their business not concerned about it.

Treatment such as heightened scrutiny is not the same as targeting. You can question how they tried to respond to the issue, but the issue was valid to address, unless you think those illegal applications were kosher. The IRS did admit they wrongly "targeted" anyone. You are suggesting that the issue was as bad with Dems and that is just not the case. The IRS targeted the perpetrators, period.

Where in that article is the NYT declaring such nonsense?

Fat hurts wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

The cluster is by design and Dems have failed to address it, as much as Rs have fought hard to complicate the process for voters. Americans don't care enough and they will be too lazy to stand in line long enough to vote. Nov 3rd will be a complete disaster.

If it's a contest of voter enthusiasm, Democrats will win by a landslide.

Just making it harder to vote will not work. Republicans will have to be targeted in their efforts. But they are quite adept at it.

Fats, if trump has the USPS in his pocket then none of that matters, it's over.

Grassrunner wrote:

Orator extraordinaire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Kg3-af9cY

That paper is just there to start the briefing. What he's really after are the press questions. He gets to blow them off and turn it into a mini rally. He's not there to give the public any information.

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

I didn't say that - that's Trump's own lawyer saying that. Talk to Cohen.

But this does sound like collusion to me:

Trump asks for Russian help to win the election by delivering stolen goods to his campaign

The Russians deliver stolen goods to the Trump campaign

Trump welcomes the stolen goods

Trumpers and Trump coordinate with the Russians on timing related to the theft.

Trump fires people investigating the receipt of stolen goods

Multiple Trump staffers lie about receiving the stolen goods and are convicted

Trump pardons the convicted staffers.

Trump says he'd do it all again.

My apologies, agip, for saying you had said that. I was wrong.

Right, apologize and fail to address the substance of agip's response.

Monkeys typing wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

If it's a contest of voter enthusiasm, Democrats will win by a landslide.

Just making it harder to vote will not work. Republicans will have to be targeted in their efforts. But they are quite adept at it.

In the just released Marist poll far more registered Democrats (62%) than Republicans (32%) said they intended to vote by mail, so crippling mail in ballots by whatever means would seem a targeted effort.

They don't even have to prevent more Dem ballots from being submitted and counted. All they have to do is raise concern about the process and they throw the whole thing in the air. You could have a state with 60% of counted votes going to Biden. Lets say there is interference of ballots at the USPS in that state that actually would result in 65% going to Biden. It doesn't matter. The Rs could point and say, look, there is obviously something wrong with the process and Dems are cheating. They bring up a recount, which then they claim is not possible and if the state has more R governance then they decide to pledge the votes to trump and he wins.

Dan Kahneman wrote:

I might be alone in this thought but Michael Cohen is the only Trump criminal who has shown any remorse. He has tried to make amends by serving justice and being honest.

I feel bad for him. I think Biden should pardon him some time after election.

CancellLRC wrote:

Orange Demon going to prison when his term is up. IMO his supporters should be there too.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1306204/michael-cohen-disloyal-book-trump-golden-showers-russia/

I do wonder if Cohen had been brought into trump's circle after election, if he would perhaps have resisted the pressure to flip and stayed quiet. In other words, did he only flip because he knew trump wouldn't come to the rescue?