johnny99 wrote:
You can't have school without teachers, and we'll see what the teachers have to say about school re-opening. You can expect some resistance from teachers who won't feel safe returning to the classroom.
I know for a fact that you are right. Unfortunately, many teachers have no choice but to go to work if they are called back to school.
semsurrrrrrrrrr wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Feel bad for the guy and his family, it's a terrible way to go and at such a young age.
Ironic that he complained about negativity, but virtually all of his posts in that montage were negative.
Agreed, sad story but hopefully a lesson for the rest of us.
"I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not." The last words of a 30 year old Trumper from San Antonio who attended a "COVID-party" during the pandemic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrKXC-Ec-hIRigged for Hillary wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Interesting, and a useful addition to the discussion.
Thanks.
Another MD supports schools opening in the fall.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/schools-can-open-safely-this-fall-11594572453?st=bi3l1wlwgyubvlf&reflink=article_imessage_share
Right, and the disclaimer continues to be the same - "But local officials should have the discretion to take tailored actions to help keep children safe. "
That pretty much means that when there is one confirmed case, schools will need to shut down and shift to remote learning until the dust settles. And you know why? Because trump has worked very hard to ensure that through now there is no coherent response and that school systems remain ill-prepared for reopening.
Is Trump supporting more funding for schools to reopen safely? Is he advocating for more funding in general for schools to be able to meet remote learning needs and be able to provide a quality education when it's unsafe to attend? Is he telling schools to listen to the experts? I think you know the answer.
Creating confusion, chaos and divisiveness on the issue isn't exactly leadership. He already told the country that he was checking out on responding to COVID and that it's every state for themselves, so the least he can do is stop being a terrible backseat driver while the real leaders are out there scrambling on the battlefield.
So you chiming in about some new MD saying it's ok to reopen with the *disclaimer is meaningless.
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Btw - how are things by you?
Ohio is having a resurgence of cases, especially Central Ohio where I live. Our Republican Governor did a great job initially and I think is beginning to again, but it appears he did open things up a tad early. I can't really fault him though because Ohio showed a serious flattening of the curve, and initially that was the stated goal of the lockdown. I would have done exactly what our governor did had I been governor. He is a very good leader, defers to scientific experts, etc. It is possible that the whole country needs to rethink our approach to this virus. The deaths are bad enough, but the fact that it can cause permanent damage to lungs, brain, and other organs for those who live is really horrible.
Thanks - I have an aunt and uncle who got through the virus and after 2 months and they still cannot taste and smell much.
covid-trump wrote:
"I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not." The last words of a 30 year old Trumper from San Antonio who attended a "COVID-party" during the pandemic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrKXC-Ec-hI
Had the guy in the WH and consequently his state minions made it clear that COVID is a serious threat and that all should take recommended precautions seriously, the number of people like this believing it's a hoax or just disregarding basic measures would be immaterial.
Sadly under this leadership, this won't be the first or last such case of trump infecting someone with moronavirus.
Trollminator wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Another MD supports schools opening in the fall.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/schools-can-open-safely-this-fall-11594572453?st=bi3l1wlwgyubvlf&reflink=article_imessage_shareRight, and the disclaimer continues to be the same - "But local officials should have the discretion to take tailored actions to help keep children safe. "
That pretty much means that when there is one confirmed case, schools will need to shut down and shift to remote learning until the dust settles. And you know why? Because trump has worked very hard to ensure that through now there is no coherent response and that school systems remain ill-prepared for reopening.
Is Trump supporting more funding for schools to reopen safely? Is he advocating for more funding in general for schools to be able to meet remote learning needs and be able to provide a quality education when it's unsafe to attend? Is he telling schools to listen to the experts? I think you know the answer.
Creating confusion, chaos and divisiveness on the issue isn't exactly leadership. He already told the country that he was checking out on responding to COVID and that it's every state for themselves, so the least he can do is stop being a terrible backseat driver while the real leaders are out there scrambling on the battlefield.
So you chiming in about some new MD saying it's ok to reopen with the *disclaimer is meaningless.
I'm one who thinks every effort should be made to open schools and conduct schools on campus and with the planning to do so. That should not mean it should happen when the time comes.
The biggest questions remain in a Mike Tyson fashion "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" and we don't know what the plan is and it's probably different in every school district in the country. Does a teacher testing positive mean all of he or she's students are quarantined and go immediately to on line school and is everyone in that school prepared to do so? Is the entire school shutdown? Etc.
TTH wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Right, and the disclaimer continues to be the same - "But local officials should have the discretion to take tailored actions to help keep children safe. "
That pretty much means that when there is one confirmed case, schools will need to shut down and shift to remote learning until the dust settles. And you know why? Because trump has worked very hard to ensure that through now there is no coherent response and that school systems remain ill-prepared for reopening.
Is Trump supporting more funding for schools to reopen safely? Is he advocating for more funding in general for schools to be able to meet remote learning needs and be able to provide a quality education when it's unsafe to attend? Is he telling schools to listen to the experts? I think you know the answer.
Creating confusion, chaos and divisiveness on the issue isn't exactly leadership. He already told the country that he was checking out on responding to COVID and that it's every state for themselves, so the least he can do is stop being a terrible backseat driver while the real leaders are out there scrambling on the battlefield.
So you chiming in about some new MD saying it's ok to reopen with the *disclaimer is meaningless.
I'm one who thinks every effort should be made to open schools and conduct schools on campus and with the planning to do so. That should not mean it should happen when the time comes.
The biggest questions remain in a Mike Tyson fashion "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" and we don't know what the plan is and it's probably different in every school district in the country. Does a teacher testing positive mean all of he or she's students are quarantined and go immediately to on line school and is everyone in that school prepared to do so? Is the entire school shutdown? Etc.
I know at least one school where if someone comes up positive, the plan is to shut down the building for a few days in order to do deep cleaning, then reassess if students can come back.
I also know that Atlanta Public Schools has announced that they will be online-only for at least the first 9 weeks. School will start two weeks late and they will use those two weeks to prepare and make sure all students can get online.
This is the price of surrender.
Yet Biff doesn’t hold him responsible..
https://twitter.com/thisisnotnorml1/status/1282658836483125248?s=21
TTH wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Right, and the disclaimer continues to be the same - "But local officials should have the discretion to take tailored actions to help keep children safe. "
That pretty much means that when there is one confirmed case, schools will need to shut down and shift to remote learning until the dust settles. And you know why? Because trump has worked very hard to ensure that through now there is no coherent response and that school systems remain ill-prepared for reopening.
Is Trump supporting more funding for schools to reopen safely? Is he advocating for more funding in general for schools to be able to meet remote learning needs and be able to provide a quality education when it's unsafe to attend? Is he telling schools to listen to the experts? I think you know the answer.
Creating confusion, chaos and divisiveness on the issue isn't exactly leadership. He already told the country that he was checking out on responding to COVID and that it's every state for themselves, so the least he can do is stop being a terrible backseat driver while the real leaders are out there scrambling on the battlefield.
So you chiming in about some new MD saying it's ok to reopen with the *disclaimer is meaningless.
I'm one who thinks every effort should be made to open schools and conduct schools on campus and with the planning to do so. That should not mean it should happen when the time comes.
The biggest questions remain in a Mike Tyson fashion "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" and we don't know what the plan is and it's probably different in every school district in the country. Does a teacher testing positive mean all of he or she's students are quarantined and go immediately to on line school and is everyone in that school prepared to do so? Is the entire school shutdown? Etc.
Still schools are expected to “figure it out” with:
1. No additional funding
2. No coherent guidance and technical assistance
3. Pressure from the very top to stay open despite risk of death and violent spread
I call that an unnecessary clusterfk waiting to happen. This was always going to be tough, but trump made it much worse if not impossible. Btw - there’s no serious and well-organized contact tracing and testing program. How the fk does anyone even think schools and communities are just supposed to figure it out?
Trollminator wrote:
TTH wrote:
I'm one who thinks every effort should be made to open schools and conduct schools on campus and with the planning to do so. That should not mean it should happen when the time comes.
The biggest questions remain in a Mike Tyson fashion "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" and we don't know what the plan is and it's probably different in every school district in the country. Does a teacher testing positive mean all of he or she's students are quarantined and go immediately to on line school and is everyone in that school prepared to do so? Is the entire school shutdown? Etc.
Still schools are expected to “figure it out” with:
1. No additional funding
2. No coherent guidance and technical assistance
3. Pressure from the very top to stay open despite risk of death and violent spread
I call that an unnecessary clusterfk waiting to happen. This was always going to be tough, but trump made it much worse if not impossible. Btw - there’s no serious and well-organized contact tracing and testing program. How the fk does anyone even think schools and communities are just supposed to figure it out?
I wanted to add that I also agree every effort should be made, but I actually don’t think it’s even possible in most bigger city schools given the high risks lurking. We shall see if the effort to try will even be worth the risk, but I believe many schools will have to immediately close. With the continued lack of organized response across the nation, school systems probably pose the biggest COVID threat to communities. I love that Tyson quote btw - applies to so many things.
Trollminator wrote:
Yet Biff doesn’t hold him responsible..
https://twitter.com/thisisnotnorml1/status/1282658836483125248?s=21
Are you sure that quote is real? In 2009 Twitter limited users to 140 characters.
CountChocula wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Yet Biff doesn’t hold him responsible..
https://twitter.com/thisisnotnorml1/status/1282658836483125248?s=21Are you sure that quote is real? In 2009 Twitter limited users to 140 characters.
You’re right - it’s a fake, not to be confused with the infamous “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” My bad
Trollminator wrote:
5pt lead in TX
TX is never going back to red. FL is already lost. The changing demographics of those two states make that a reality.
covid-trump wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
5pt lead in TX
TX is never going back to red. FL is already lost. The changing demographics of those two states make that a reality.
BUT fear not, trump and friends will find some way to prevent this
Trollminator wrote:
5pt lead in TX
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/12/joe-biden-builds-lead-over-donald-trump-in-reliably-red-texas-as-voters-sour-on-handling-of-virus/
TX is a tie, per RCP.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.htmlDementia Joe will NEVER be POTUS
We’re over the Jerry Springer drama ridden President.
covid-trump wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
5pt lead in TX
TX is never going back to red. FL is already lost. The changing demographics of those two states make that a reality.
NEVER is a long time. Republicans and independents are running away fro Trump in droves. Biden is going to win in 2020. If a reasonable Republican can make any waves after Biden is elected, he/she (probably a He) would have a chance to flip some states back to red in 2024.
Biden will have a big challenge on his hands in 2024 more than likely. He will have been elected to stop the poison. Once he has fulfilled that role, voters will want more. He will be 4 years older. He WILL make some mistakes as all presidents do, and we will have to see how the economy recovers under his watch.
The Trump era is going to be gone. No one will continue that nonsense after Trump is out.