Quite serious, I'm guessing the family member is Ingrid.
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Rip to all the morons in threads months ago trying to defend child abuse
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GrapeSon wrote:
Quite serious, I'm guessing the family member is Ingrid.
Yes, serious indeed. Maybe the following might look like a superficial diversion: But I’m worried how these news will effect Filip Ingebrigtsen and Narve Nordås and their racing in Spain tomorrow (1500m and 5000m) -a little after 9 pm CET…
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He is indicted under Section 282 of the penal code. Here is what the English translation of the law says:
A penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding six years shall be applied to any person who by threats, force, deprivation of liberty, violence or other degrading treatment seriously or repeatedly abuses a.
a) a present or former spouse or cohabitant,
b) a relative in direct line of descent, or a present or former spouse's or cohabitant's relative in direct line of descent,
c) a relative in direct line of ascent,
d) a member of the person's household, or
e) anyone in the person's care.Norwegian newspaperAccording to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations.
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A central incident in the investigation has been an episode involving a towel at the beginning of January 2022. At that time, Gjert Ingebrigtsen and the offended child are said to have argued.
According to the indictment, Ingebrigtsen yelled at the victim, held a finger up in the person's face - before hitting the face with a wet towel so that a red mark appeared on the cheek.231 -
It’s becoming more and more obvious that Jacob was fundamentally abused as a young man.
A prodigy that was, quite literally, beaten into shape.
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Purrwegian wrote:
He is indicted under Section 282 of the penal code. Here is what the English translation of the law says:
A penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding six years shall be applied to any person who by threats, force, deprivation of liberty, violence or other degrading treatment seriously or repeatedly abuses a.
a) a present or former spouse or cohabitant,
b) a relative in direct line of descent, or a present or former spouse's or cohabitant's relative in direct line of descent,
c) a relative in direct line of ascent,
d) a member of the person's household, or
e) anyone in the person's care.Norwegian newspaperAccording to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations.[...]
A central incident in the investigation has been an episode involving a towel at the beginning of January 2022. At that time, Gjert Ingebrigtsen and the offended child are said to have argued.
According to the indictment, Ingebrigtsen yelled at the victim, held a finger up in the person's face - before hitting the face with a wet towel so that a red mark appeared on the cheek.
“hitting the face with a wet towel so that a red mark appeared”: That’s it? If so, the whole thing sounds like theater. Most of the world sometimes beats their children. A red mark goes away pretty soon, especially on white skin.
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Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
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Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
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Jjjjj wrote:
Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
You're probably from a country where law enforcement is some sort of clown show, because you don't get indicted for charges like these in Norway unless there's convincing evidence of serious violations.
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Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Also, luckily, just because "most of the world beats their children" doesn't mean it is an ok thing to do in Norway, where that is not allowed to do.
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Gjert is innocent until proven guilty
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Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Read again what? That’s all the English translation had that was concrete. The other big words don’t mean anything unless substantiated. People use big words too easily.
Post a full translation if there was more.
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Such a shame all of this went so horrible :(
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bah. wrote:
Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Read again what? That’s all the English translation had that was concrete. The other big words don’t mean anything unless substantiated. People use big words too easily.
Post a full translation if there was more.
Just because the press respects the privacy of those involved to not discuss any specific episodes other than the one that became public known, doesn't mean its just big words.
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This is very important wrote:
Gjert is innocent until proven guilty
100%.
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bah. wrote:
Post a full translation if there was more.
It was a selected translation from the VG link (Machine translation, but it seems to be of adequate quality). The indictment itself is unlikely to be made fully public, but bits and pieces of the indictment will probably emerge in some of the more tabloid-y newspapers, if they haven't already.
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Blah blah blah, all of you hate Jakob and wish his father was right. Absolutely no nuance with any of you.
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snowflakes wrote:
Blah blah blah, all of you hate Jakob and wish his father was right. Absolutely no nuance with any of you.
You appear to have already formed a conclusion based on very limited information. That is the wrong thing to do. Everyone has the right to have their day in court and defend himself. We should wait until the outcome of this case has been decided before we cast aspersions on Gjert.
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bah. wrote:
Purrwegian wrote:
He is indicted under Section 282 of the penal code. Here is what the English translation of the law says:
Norwegian newspaper“hitting the face with a wet towel so that a red mark appeared”: That’s it? If so, the whole thing sounds like theater. Most of the world sometimes beats their children. A red mark goes away pretty soon, especially on white skin.
A "wet towel"? You didn't read the charges.
"A penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding six years shall be applied to any person who by threats, force, deprivation of liberty, violence or other degrading treatment seriously or repeatedly abuses'...
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Jjjjj wrote:
Scratcher wrote:
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
Read the charges.
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