Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I don't know how anyone can have high confidence that Bernie is going to win based on the results of two homogeneous and statistically insignificant states.

My view: vote for your favorite in the primary; vote for the nominee in the general election. If the consequences of trump staying in the WH weren't so grave, I would say do not vote for someone you don't believe in. By voting for the nominee in 2020 you are voting for democracy.

bernie's advantage is the proportional system each state uses...when you count states including CA, he'll have a lead after Super Tuesday that would be very hard to catch up on.

And many candidates will not hit 15% so they'll get zero delegates in many states. Bernie will get delegates in every state.

Amy had already indicated that she may not even campaign in California and Texas. She just doesn't have the resources in those 2 delegate-rich states. She even had to drive her bus all the way from New Hampshire. She is stretched that thin.

Sally Vix wrote:

Yosingleryz wrote:

Good. The likes of you, Rigged for Hillary and Trollinator should say less. We may be able to warm a bowl of soup with your collective IQs.

Thanks. A cup of soup is always good. I am a member of Mensa and you? Are you between 90 and 110? Or do you even fall below that range? Even if you do, I still would never talk bad of you. We all family here.

Sally, if you're a member of Mensa, posting propaganda like you do would make your head explode.

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

I'd add that Bberg is really really good at politics and organization. He is light years ahead of the lame Dem politics being done outside his campaign. Bringing some of that higher level stuff will help fight trump.

Just look at his ads - really good and he's figured out how to attack trump.

I'm increasingly more confident BB is a better opponent that Biden. Joe keeps giving the impression his heart is not in this 100% and that he's just not trying hard enough.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/michael-bloombergs-ads-ranked.html

Trump has been the most scrutinized/examined politician EVER. Everyone from political opponents to mainstream media to the Anti=Trumpers have been trying to find dirt on the guy exhaustedly for 5 years. Everything to know about the guy is out there. Bloomberg, on the other hand, is just beginning to get looked at and he already has been found to have some serious skeletons in the closet.

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

This is true. However, it in no way makes trump more suitable for office. She was clearly the better choice and trump reinforces my opinion every day.

Trollminator - do you think the DNC and Perez would again try to sabotage Bernie's nomination chances?

I definitely think they are capable of it, and would depending on the situation. In 2016, I think it was done in response to political pressure from donors and party members. For this election, I can see it happening if it's a close race between Bernie and Biden. But if Bernie is gaining huge momentum and clearly winning after super tuesday I don't think they will try anything funny and would start falling in line. If it's a race between BB and Bernie, they will quickly warm up to BB... as they are already doing.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Thanks. A cup of soup is always good. I am a member of Mensa and you? Are you between 90 and 110? Or do you even fall below that range? Even if you do, I still would never talk bad of you. We all family here.

Sally, if you're a member of Mensa, posting propaganda like you do would make your head explode.

You have many very intelligent people on both sides of the aisle posting stuff that you might consider propaganda. Just because you may have a level of intelligence doesn't mean that you are in the middle. I am very conservative and there are many people here who are very smart who are very liberal. Politics does strange things to people.

Trollminator wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator - do you think the DNC and Perez would again try to sabotage Bernie's nomination chances?

I definitely think they are capable of it, and would depending on the situation. In 2016, I think it was done in response to political pressure from donors and party members. For this election, I can see it happening if it's a close race between Bernie and Biden. But if Bernie is gaining huge momentum and clearly winning after super tuesday I don't think they will try anything funny and would start falling in line. If it's a race between BB and Bernie, they will quickly warm up to BB... as they are already doing.

If it comes down to Bernie and BB in the final weeks you can expect some serious bloodshed. BB"s relentless ads and Bernie supporters maybe going off the cliff in destroying BB.

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I'm increasingly more confident BB is a better opponent that Biden. Joe keeps giving the impression his heart is not in this 100% and that he's just not trying hard enough.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/michael-bloombergs-ads-ranked.html

Trump has been the most scrutinized/examined politician EVER. Everyone from political opponents to mainstream media to the Anti=Trumpers have been trying to find dirt on the guy exhaustedly for 5 years. Everything to know about the guy is out there. Bloomberg, on the other hand, is just beginning to get looked at and he already has been found to have some serious skeletons in the closet.

Sally, if you haven't noticed that is strategic, he thrives from that. He survives on headlines, good and bad. And in fact endless dirt has been found on him. That he hasn't taken a bigger hit is a function of total protection from the GOP and cover from his admin. Nobody here disputes the fact that any of his several blunders and corruptness would have quickly resulted in impeachment and destroyed approval ratings for any other person. The people spoke and were ok with putting a crook in the WH. Maybe they won't be ok keeping him there.

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I definitely think they are capable of it, and would depending on the situation. In 2016, I think it was done in response to political pressure from donors and party members. For this election, I can see it happening if it's a close race between Bernie and Biden. But if Bernie is gaining huge momentum and clearly winning after super tuesday I don't think they will try anything funny and would start falling in line. If it's a race between BB and Bernie, they will quickly warm up to BB... as they are already doing.

If it comes down to Bernie and BB in the final weeks you can expect some serious bloodshed. BB"s relentless ads and Bernie supporters maybe going off the cliff in destroying BB.

It's not going to come down to the final weeks... momentum is going to define a clear winner before then. Bernie supporters will be very upset indeed, they are very passionate.

Nice points. I just meant if it came down to Trump versus BB, there won't be any October surprise-equivalents for Trump. Everything is already out there and his supporters are comfortable with that. BB - who knows what might come out against him. Just imagine quotes demeaning blacks like his earlier stop-and-frisk comments have alluded to. Dems might be walking on eggshells during the final few months.

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

bernie's advantage is the proportional system each state uses...when you count states including CA, he'll have a lead after Super Tuesday that would be very hard to catch up on.

And many candidates will not hit 15% so they'll get zero delegates in many states. Bernie will get delegates in every state.

Amy had already indicated that she may not even campaign in California and Texas. She just doesn't have the resources in those 2 delegate-rich states. She even had to drive her bus all the way from New Hampshire. She is stretched that thin.

For Amy it's about lasting as long as possible and increasing her profile for a VP pick, her chances of winning are slim I think. I would put Warren in the same boat, sadly as I think she's probably the most qualified.

That's not an honest statement. His inner circle has been protecting him fiercely, who the heck knows what they are hiding. Obviously, great effort and care was taken to make sure nothing came out in the impeachment hearings.

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I'm increasingly more confident BB is a better opponent that Biden. Joe keeps giving the impression his heart is not in this 100% and that he's just not trying hard enough.

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Going for the guy decision huh? Yes, Bloomberg will be better than Biden at filling the shoes of Hillary Clinton in driving away support from rural voters and millennial voters. In fact, there are already more independent voters saying they will not show up in November at all if it is Bloomberg vs. Trump. Music to the ears of Republicans and other fascists the world over.

Esterhazy1 wrote:

I'm increasingly more confident BB is a better opponent that Biden. Joe keeps giving the impression his heart is not in this 100% and that he's just not trying hard enough.

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Going for the guy decision huh? Yes, Bloomberg will be better than Biden at filling the shoes of Hillary Clinton in driving away support from rural voters and millennial voters. In fact, there are already more independent voters saying they will not show up in November at all if it is Bloomberg vs. Trump. Music to the ears of Republicans and other fascists the world over.[/quote]

Proof?

Trollminator wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Nice points. I just meant if it came down to Trump versus BB, there won't be any October surprise-equivalents for Trump. Everything is already out there and his supporters are comfortable with that. BB - who knows what might come out against him. Just imagine quotes demeaning blacks like his earlier stop-and-frisk comments have alluded to. Dems might be walking on eggshells during the final few months.

That's not an honest statement. His inner circle has been protecting him fiercely, who the heck knows what they are hiding. Obviously, great effort and care was taken to make sure nothing came out in the impeachment hearings.

Come on Trollinator. Mueller and his crackpot team of the best investigators in the world investigated him for 3 years and found nothing substantial. They had like 500 witnesses and millions of other stuff and they found no collusion. The House investigated everything about Trump. Whatever Trump did did not rise to impeachable offenses. How long are we going to investigate the guy? Til he is 120 years old? The best investigators this country has been looking into his past for 3-plus years and they have found nothing of import. Who else could survive that level of inspection???

Sally Vix wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Sally, if you're a member of Mensa, posting propaganda like you do would make your head explode.

You have many very intelligent people on both sides of the aisle posting stuff that you might consider propaganda. Just because you may have a level of intelligence doesn't mean that you are in the middle. I am very conservative and there are many people here who are very smart who are very liberal. Politics does strange things to people.

You post the same stuff over and over;

"The Dems have been trying to undo the election for three years". The Democrats had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation and took no action over its findings. Ukraine was a big deal and justified impeachment.

"The Dems had 17 witnesses in the House and the Republicans none". The key witnesses were blocked by the WH and the Republicans would have wanted only irrelevant witnesses like Hunter Biden or the WB.

"Trump donates his entire salary to charity and no other president has ever done that". $400K goes into a $Billion 2500 times so if he really is a billionaire his presidential salary would be like coins found under his sofa cushions, to him. You can't both claim he's worth $3.1B and praise him for donating his salary to charity.

"He is our duly elected president and we should accept that and let him do his job." He effing hates California and as a Californian I'm justified in hating him right back. He is the president of the red states, only.

There are many other examples and you keep repeating them no matter many times they've been debunked.

Were you complaining when Flagpole posted:

Mueller is coming

The Clown is done

like a MILLION TIMES? Perhaps even 5 million times? Were you complaining about that?

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

That's not an honest statement. His inner circle has been protecting him fiercely, who the heck knows what they are hiding. Obviously, great effort and care was taken to make sure nothing came out in the impeachment hearings.

Come on Trollinator. Mueller and his crackpot team of the best investigators in the world investigated him for 3 years and found nothing substantial. They had like 500 witnesses and millions of other stuff and they found no collusion. The House investigated everything about Trump. Whatever Trump did did not rise to impeachable offenses. How long are we going to investigate the guy? Til he is 120 years old? The best investigators this country has been looking into his past for 3-plus years and they have found nothing of import. Who else could survive that level of inspection???

1. They did not investigate trump, they investigated Russia's interference with our elections

2. The Mueller report is pretty damming for trump, but the right pretends it wasn't and Barr provided cover by distorting the facts

3. The House had very damming but limited evidence. The WH broke from precedence and this was the first impeachment in history in which no witnesses or additional evidence were allowed at the Senate trial. The level of inspection is only as good as inspection is allowed. Dems were not allowed to inspect thoroughly.

4. Repeating falsehoods isn't going to change the truth.

This debate is starting to freak me out - it sounds like the men have been stocking up grievances and are going to let it all go tonight.

it's the last chance for everyone but bernie - it's going to be one awkward attack after the next,

family feud time.

agip wrote:

This debate is starting to freak me out - it sounds like the men have been stocking up grievances and are going to let it all go tonight.

it's the last chance for everyone but bernie - it's going to be one awkward attack after the next,

family feud time.

Agip and other Dems ...

What are your expectations of the following:

1) Bloomberg will hit it out of the park

BB will do as what everyone expected

BB will have a dismal showing

2) Biden will remain Sleepy Joe

Biden will have a reinvigoration and provide new life into his campaign

Biden will be lackluster and his demise will merely be cemented

3) Bernie will continue to wow his Bernie Bros and the rest of the socialists

Bernie will do pretty well and keep his main follower happy

Bernie will not do so well and many moderates will question if Bernie can actually win

4) Liz Warren has a strong showing and her near-death campaign has a new life

More of the same ho-hum Liz Warren

LIz bottoms out

5) Amy comes out swinging

No one cares that Amy is coming out swinging

Amy goes down swinging