Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

We have been hearing about these supposed cases of obstruction of justice, collusion, etc. etc. for more than 2 years now. Stormy Daniels was going to bring Trump down. Roger Stone was going to bring Trump down. Manafort was going to bring Trump down. Michael Cohen was going to bring Trump down. Karen McDougal was going to bring Trump down. Michael Flynn was going to bring Trump down. You liberals have been dreaming that each new twist in the investigation was going to bring Trump down. Mika and Joe have been predicting "such and such" would bring Trump down. Yet, Trump is still around and heading with relatively high popularity on the way to his re-election year. Just give up up Libs. We will have Trump for another 6 years. Sit back and enjoy!

Why is it that you think those things are gone and buried? Stormy and McDougal will be part of the reason Trump goes to prison for committing two felonies. They are part of the reason Cohen is going to prison and why he flipped on the President and likely part of the reason Weisselberg has immunity as did Pecker.

Roger Stone has only recently been indicted. As far as the rest go, Mueller hasn't provided a report yet. This has been explained to you before. I have never seen a group of people in such denial as you Trumpers. How can you say none of that will affect Trump when all those investigations are still ongoing (18 at last KNOWN count)?

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Why is it that you think those things are gone and buried? Stormy and McDougal will be part of the reason Trump goes to prison for committing two felonies. They are part of the reason Cohen is going to prison and why he flipped on the President and likely part of the reason Weisselberg has immunity as did Pecker.

Roger Stone has only recently been indicted. As far as the rest go, Mueller hasn't provided a report yet. This has been explained to you before. I have never seen a group of people in such denial as you Trumpers. How can you say none of that will affect Trump when all those investigations are still ongoing (18 at last KNOWN count)?

I am not even a "Trumper." I am a moderate who thinks Liberals could not live with Trump being president and are doing everything possible to reverse the election.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Why is it that you think those things are gone and buried? Stormy and McDougal will be part of the reason Trump goes to prison for committing two felonies. They are part of the reason Cohen is going to prison and why he flipped on the President and likely part of the reason Weisselberg has immunity as did Pecker.

Roger Stone has only recently been indicted. As far as the rest go, Mueller hasn't provided a report yet. This has been explained to you before. I have never seen a group of people in such denial as you Trumpers. How can you say none of that will affect Trump when all those investigations are still ongoing (18 at last KNOWN count)?

I am not even a "Trumper." I am a moderate who thinks Liberals could not live with Trump being president and are doing everything possible to reverse the election.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/special-counsel-conclusion-announcement/index.html

Here is a breakdown of the number of people and entities charged with crimes by the special counsel, the overall number of criminal charges that have been brought against these defendants, and the number of people who have pleaded guilty.

4

People sentenced to prison

1

Person convicted at trial

7

People pleaded guilty

37

People and entities charged

199

Overall criminal counts

Yep. Good that it is wrapping up, but Trumpers had better read that article before they get too excited. Mueller has already pawned off work to other offices, and the DC US Attorney's office is reportedly taking up the reins on cases which were borne of the Mueller investigation, so this is all ongoing even once Mueller is not the Special Counsel...and the phrase "Mueller is coming" is still appropriate even once he is done working because his work is being continued by these other offices.

Bottom line is that Trump is not in the clear once this wraps up and he hasn't immediately been either indicted or impeached. It's all coming, and I have patience to wait.

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

If he did try to get the prosecutor changed in SDNY, that is textbook obstruction of justice.

If there is a recording of the phone call between Individual-1 and Whitaker, it is an open and shut case.

I think there is a decent chance that such a recording exists. Individual-1 is known for using an insecure phone that is tapped by foreign governments, especially China and Russia.

So if the recording exists, those nations that have a copy of the recording also have complete control of our president.

We have been hearing about these supposed cases of obstruction of justice, collusion, etc. etc. for more than 2 years now. Stormy Daniels was going to bring Trump down. Roger Stone was going to bring Trump down. Manafort was going to bring Trump down. Michael Cohen was going to bring Trump down. Karen McDougal was going to bring Trump down. Michael Flynn was going to bring Trump down. You liberals have been dreaming that each new twist in the investigation was going to bring Trump down. Mika and Joe have been predicting "such and such" would bring Trump down. Yet, Trump is still around and heading with relatively high popularity on the way to his re-election year. Just give up up Libs. We will have Trump for another 6 years. Sit back and enjoy!

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

We have been hearing about these supposed cases of obstruction of justice, collusion, etc. etc. for more than 2 years now. Stormy Daniels was going to bring Trump down. Roger Stone was going to bring Trump down. Manafort was going to bring Trump down. Michael Cohen was going to bring Trump down. Karen McDougal was going to bring Trump down. Michael Flynn was going to bring Trump down. You liberals have been dreaming that each new twist in the investigation was going to bring Trump down. Mika and Joe have been predicting "such and such" would bring Trump down. Yet, Trump is still around and heading with relatively high popularity on the way to his re-election year. Just give up up Libs. We will have Trump for another 6 years. Sit back and enjoy!

Again, Trumpers fail to argue that he's innocent. They know he's guilty.

So we have more desperate logic: "If something hasn't happened yet, if follows that it will never happen."

The day Mueller and SDNY issue reports exonerating Individual-1, I might be willing to say he won't go to prison.

But let's look at the scenario that is far more likely.

If Mueller and SDNY knew the president was innocent, they would want to say so as soon as possible. It would be legal malpractice to keep a cloud over someone's head any longer than necessary. It would be a very serious offense.

Therefore, they must be building a case. It could still turn out that there isn't enough evidence to indict. But given the length of time, the other close associates indicted, and the seriousness of crimes we know were committed, there is only one likely scenario.

The cases are building and indictments are coming.

Individual-1 is going to prison.

Awsi Dooger wrote:

Trump won with 46%. That number was far more relevant than the electoral verdict. Somehow the genius Republicans didn't understand that heading into 2018. They thought they could push an electoral button all across the country and magically turn 2% defeat into victory.

There is no question Trump can win in 2020. But he'll have to do it via the same formula with virtually no margin for error. He'll have to sweep those upper midwestern states again even if they prefer the other side at base instinct. And this time the Democrat will campaign there and operations will be in place, instead of taking it for granted with an occasional visit by Chelsea Clinton.

Anyway, here is a classic case of a conservative pundit absolutely overwhelmed when the historian guest wouldn't succumb to his simplistic talking points. Tucker Carlson was so unnerved he resorted to profanity, and preposterous claims that the guest couldn't possibly watch Fox News because he doesn't like in the United States.

As always...Never Prevent a Conservative From Sounding Like a Conservative.

Fox was too petrified to run the segment, as forecast by the Dutch guest.

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1098289381096402946

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Again, Trumpers fail to argue that he's innocent. They know he's guilty.

So we have more desperate logic: "If something hasn't happened yet, if follows that it will never happen."

The day Mueller and SDNY issue reports exonerating Individual-1, I might be willing to say he won't go to prison.

But let's look at the scenario that is far more likely.

If Mueller and SDNY knew the president was innocent, they would want to say so as soon as possible. It would be legal malpractice to keep a cloud over someone's head any longer than necessary. It would be a very serious offense.

Therefore, they must be building a case. It could still turn out that there isn't enough evidence to indict. But given the length of time, the other close associates indicted, and the seriousness of crimes we know were committed, there is only one likely scenario.

The cases are building and indictments are coming.

Individual-1 is going to prison.

Seriously, now long do they need to build a case? Mueller and his crackpot team of the best investigators in the world have spend more than 2 years looking in depth at all of Trump's dealings and they so far have nothing to show for it? Really? They are privvy to everything Trump. Trump is ruining the country yet they still have nothing? Laughable that you Libs are still hoping Trump will be brought down.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

True. I find Trump to be a despicable person. But, the alternatives being Bernie or Hillary, the choice was easy.

So, once you make a political choice, you go with that to the ends of the Earth? Turning on Trump now, or at anytime in his Presidency, doesn't mean you like Hillary or Bernie. If you made a car purchase after careful consideration and it turned out to be a lemon, would you not take it back?

Hillary doesn't get to become President if Trump is impeached or resigns...you get Pence who has kissed Trump's butt the whole time, so you should like that.

I didn't know Trump was the criminal we have now found out that he is until later on after he was elected...which is why I didn't care too much initially (and some here mistakenly thought I was hiding). I didn't know he was the serial liar he is until a while into his presidency. I didn't know his awful rhetoric would continue until a while into his presidency (typically once elected, officials just get down to the business of doing the work, not continuing with petty differences like they did during the election).

He is a confirmed serial liar and a criminal. How can you support that? And, deny that you are a Trumper if you want, but you are supporting him still, so you ARE a Trumper. You don't get an out because you admit he is a despicable person.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Yep. Good that it is wrapping up, but Trumpers had better read that article before they get too excited. Mueller has already pawned off work to other offices, and the DC US Attorney's office is reportedly taking up the reins on cases which were borne of the Mueller investigation, so this is all ongoing even once Mueller is not the Special Counsel...and the phrase "Mueller is coming" is still appropriate even once he is done working because his work is being continued by these other offices.

Bottom line is that Trump is not in the clear once this wraps up and he hasn't immediately been either indicted or impeached. It's all coming, and I have patience to wait.

Flagpole has just admitted that Mueller is not going to bring Trump down. Read his words above clearly. He has just admitted that Trump will not be brought down by Mueller but is hoping that other entities may bring Trump down. Flagpole, you just came clean and admitted that Mueller has nothing on Trump. LOL!

Sally Vix wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Again, Trumpers fail to argue that he's innocent. They know he's guilty.

So we have more desperate logic: "If something hasn't happened yet, if follows that it will never happen."

The day Mueller and SDNY issue reports exonerating Individual-1, I might be willing to say he won't go to prison.

But let's look at the scenario that is far more likely.

If Mueller and SDNY knew the president was innocent, they would want to say so as soon as possible. It would be legal malpractice to keep a cloud over someone's head any longer than necessary. It would be a very serious offense.

Therefore, they must be building a case. It could still turn out that there isn't enough evidence to indict. But given the length of time, the other close associates indicted, and the seriousness of crimes we know were committed, there is only one likely scenario.

The cases are building and indictments are coming.

Individual-1 is going to prison.

Seriously, now long do they need to build a case? Mueller and his crackpot team of the best investigators in the world have spend more than 2 years looking in depth at all of Trump's dealings and they so far have nothing to show for it? Really? They are privvy to everything Trump. Trump is ruining the country yet they still have nothing? Laughable that you Libs are still hoping Trump will be brought down.

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

We have been hearing about these supposed cases of obstruction of justice, collusion, etc. etc. for more than 2 years now. Stormy Daniels was going to bring Trump down. Roger Stone was going to bring Trump down. Manafort was going to bring Trump down. Michael Cohen was going to bring Trump down. Karen McDougal was going to bring Trump down. Michael Flynn was going to bring Trump down. You liberals have been dreaming that each new twist in the investigation was going to bring Trump down. Mika and Joe have been predicting "such and such" would bring Trump down. Yet, Trump is still around and heading with relatively high popularity on the way to his re-election year. Just give up up Libs. We will have Trump for another 6 years. Sit back and enjoy!

Again, Trumpers fail to argue that he's innocent. They know he's guilty.

So we have more desperate logic: "If something hasn't happened yet, if follows that it will never happen."

The day Mueller and SDNY issue reports exonerating Individual-1, I might be willing to say he won't go to prison.

But let's look at the scenario that is far more likely.

If Mueller and SDNY knew the president was innocent, they would want to say so as soon as possible. It would be legal malpractice to keep a cloud over someone's head any longer than necessary. It would be a very serious offense.

Therefore, they must be building a case. It could still turn out that there isn't enough evidence to indict. But given the length of time, the other close associates indicted, and the seriousness of crimes we know were committed, there is only one likely scenario.

The cases are building and indictments are coming.

Individual-1 is going to prison.