I have dated and been in relationships, but I never really enjoy them. ???

Not calling you gay...just suggesting you go gay, you can't say there's a hole in the argument.

Not sure the OP is just looking for sex but if he is that's really good advice. I tried gay sex in college and it was great. No strings & no relationship needed.

Later, when I wanted strings, a relationship & sex, women became mighty appealing.

Driven Guy wrote:

The problem is not a lack of connection with girls. I realize you're being facetious, but it's so far off the mark as to be imbecilic at best. Most people outgrow finding humor in calling each other gay sometime in middle school. Try to catch up.

Really?

I never really enjoy being in a relationship and usually am single and not looking.

And no, I wasn't calling you gay. You missed the point.

The point is, stick to the hook up method. It could be guys or girls. Whatever works for you. Just be safe and honest.

You are too in love with yourself to be of any use in a relationship.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Driven Guy wrote:

The problem is not a lack of connection with girls. I realize you're being facetious, but it's so far off the mark as to be imbecilic at best. Most people outgrow finding humor in calling each other gay sometime in middle school. Try to catch up.

Really?

I never really enjoy being in a relationship and usually am single and not looking.

...

You are too in love with yourself to be of any use in a relationship.

I'm amazed you think you actually made a point.

Driven Guy wrote:I'm amazed you think you actually made a point.

Hence the reason your relationships are not interesting in any way to you.

Stick to hook ups.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Driven Guy wrote:I'm amazed you think you actually made a point.

Hence the reason your relationships are not interesting in any way to you.

Stick to hook ups.

This is why my earlier post referred to millennial philosophy as incoherent. Despite more formal schooling than any other generation (or maybe because of it), your underlying premises for all your arguments are shallow and lead inevitably to confusion. Driven Guy doesn't find "relationships" interesting. And he doesn't even understand why.

Here's where it starts. "Sexual acts feel good."

For all of human history, people have acted on this simple idea. In most cultures, some brake had to be placed on fully maximizing this desire. Like most things, if taken to an extreme, it became an obviously negative influence on the people involved and everyone around them. Society, in other words.

And right away you can see where modern Western society has devolved. Today, the individual is completely autonomous in sexual actions. Even though at least two individuals are needed for sexual congress, people want to believe that ultimately they have no responsibility to anyone else - not society and not even their partner(s).

That isn't true, so the pendulum has swung back in an idiotic way among the secular. What was once referred to as courtship has become messy and uncertain, mixed as it is with drugs, alcohol and a coarse culture. The mystery of the opposite sex has always been somewhat murky. Now it's bizarre. The new college codes for permission for sexual acts have become unwieldy and frightening to males, because women are theoretically equal, but not if they later have regrets for something they did while under the influence of alcohol, drugs or passion. And young people have used drugs and alcohol in huge percentages in the last 50 years.

The most transformative part of sex - the children that result - is now considered to be something separate from the purpose of sexual union. It's not surprising that millenials don't want to get married. It's easier to just bury themselves in porn and meaningless hook ups. People, they find, are not perfect, so they'll just move on to the next "relationship" or hook up.

The self obsessed tend not to want children anyway, and would likely be poor parents if they did have them.

The traditional Christian ethic was simple and effective, even if it wasn't always popular.

Sex is a gift meant for:

1) Procreation within marriage

2) Unitive purposes within marriage

ML wrote:

"They "justify" cheating as the fault of the 'mother of their children's behavior", .."

The wife in this situation often is and never will be satisfied with whatever the husband does for the family, she will constantly nagg mainly because it is she who now regrets having had a child as she discovers that it is not all fun and games. She also engages in PNSO maybe to try and get back at her husband for what she perceives is now a permanently crappy situation. Add weight gain, lack of desire to pay the taxes and bills or to do anything else to make the daily family life easier then who can blame the husband for eventually finding another partner ...

Some guys love a woman, some love women. The difference between the two groups is how compelled the former feel they need to be of the latter. When you have multiple beautiful women in your life, the downside is the jealousy and envy of mediocre men and women trapped in shrinking cages of their own design.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Driven Guy wrote:I'm amazed you think you actually made a point.

Hence the reason your relationships are not interesting in any way to you.

Stick to hook ups.

LOL +1000

+1

But my fellow millennials are (on average) ignorant, impatient hedonists who dislike critical and philosophical thinking.

It's a nasty recipe, nihilism and relativism.

I never enjoyed relationships with women either and i am gay, so maybe....you are?

Sucks to be you.

Thousands of generations? You surely think a lot of yourself. You are doomed to be alone.

It starts with just one cat wrote:

Sex is a gift meant for:

1) Procreation within marriage

2) Unitive purposes within marriage

3) Punish women for being women.

4) Force your opinions onto everyone else.

5) Take away personal freedoms.

6) Profit!

Why? The answer is simple - you've never been loved and cared for in your past relationships

SimpleTruth wrote:

Why? The answer is simple - you've never been loved and cared for in your past relationships

This is a big part of it, I will admit. I don't feel like anyone I've dated really gave a crap about me at all. They might have thought they did, but really all they cared about was how they could use me to their benefit. They were never actually interested in my life at all or how I was doing. After experiencing that a dozen times and seeing it a lot also it's been really eye-opening and turned me into kind of a pessimist, like how is it possible for people to care so little about each other, even after being in a decent relationship together for a year? I think most people lack the empathy to carry on a happy and fulfilling relationship.

Driven Guy wrote:

SimpleTruth wrote:

Why? The answer is simple - you've never been loved and cared for in your past relationships

This is a big part of it, I will admit. I don't feel like anyone I've dated really gave a crap about me at all. They might have thought they did, but really all they cared about was how they could use me to their benefit. They were never actually interested in my life at all or how I was doing. After experiencing that a dozen times and seeing it a lot also it's been really eye-opening and turned me into kind of a pessimist, like how is it possible for people to care so little about each other, even after being in a decent relationship together for a year? I think most people lack the empathy to carry on a happy and fulfilling relationship.

So why don't you start dating guys and see if you get a similar result. Previous posters are giving you a viable alternative, that you are patently refusing even without giving it a try. Very inflexible on your part.

Then why don't you be a caring and empathetic person first before expecting your partner to be one?

Sounds like you're occupied with career advancement and missing out on other aspects of life...