Describer of Dems wrote:
off base wrote:Abortion is a legal method to kill a fetus.
Driving a car into someone is not a legal method to kill a fetus.
When baby is formed and healthy, it is no longer a fetus. You are committing infanticide and you should be ashamed of yourself!
You need to look up the definition of fetus.
Pollly P wrote:
Liberals will always sympathize with the woman/mother. No matter what. No matter how reprehensible the crime, they will always go with the woman. Beyond despicable. Liberals have no morals. No ethics. Whatever is best for the Democrat party or the woman. That is all they care about.
Especially if the woman is enrolled in a university. The liberal scoring system is like
Man? -5
Woman? +5
Trans? +10
White? -7
Black or Hispanic? +5
Asian or Indian? +0 (ignore successful non-White groups)
Pursuing or holding educational degrees? +3
Blue collar job? -2
off base wrote:
Describer of Dems wrote:When baby is formed and healthy, it is no longer a fetus. You are committing infanticide and you should be ashamed of yourself!
You need to look up the definition of fetus.
No, you need to look up the definition of murder. The baby is about to come out of the womb. It is partially out and they stick scissors into its brain. THAT IS MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Describer of Dems wrote:
off base wrote:You need to look up the definition of fetus.
No, you need to look up the definition of murder. The baby is about to come out of the womb. It is partially out and they stick scissors into its brain. THAT IS MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The discussion was about legal terms and despite what your opinion might be, abortion is not considered murder in the US or in Canada. Sorry.
off base wrote:
Describer of Dems wrote:No, you need to look up the definition of murder. The baby is about to come out of the womb. It is partially out and they stick scissors into its brain. THAT IS MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The discussion was about legal terms and despite what your opinion might be, abortion is not considered murder in the US or in Canada. Sorry.
A baby who survives a botched abortion is a baby. Killing it is infanticide and IS murder.
While it is troubling that you have linked these two cases, as they are not similar crimes - other than his conduct was abhorrent as well and did deserve significant more jail time - there has long been outrage at the infanticide laws in Canada and it is seen as an outdated law that needs to change. The maximum sentence for a mother killing her own baby is 5 years, but nobody gets that. A woman recently in Calgary killed three babies and got 18 months. Prosecutors have kept trying to charge mothers with murder, but keep failing.
Anyway, thanks for speaking out about these two cases. It is a law that needs to change and I also agree with you that people like Brock Turner need to be given much more significant jail time.
Send her to Shutter Island!
How is nobody mentioning the sheer psycho way in which she carried this out? Drowning a baby? That is some seriously psychotic, cold-blooded murdering behavior. What's to stop her from doing something like that again?
odd connection wrote:
While it is troubling that you have linked these two cases, as they are not similar crimes - other than his conduct was abhorrent as well and did deserve significant more jail time - there has long been outrage at the infanticide laws in Canada and it is seen as an outdated law that needs to change. The maximum sentence for a mother killing her own baby is 5 years, but nobody gets that. A woman recently in Calgary killed three babies and got 18 months. Prosecutors have kept trying to charge mothers with murder, but keep failing.
Anyway, thanks for speaking out about these two cases. It is a law that needs to change and I also agree with you that people like Brock Turner need to be given much more significant jail time.
This is sickening. And people are saying they want to move there b/c the orange idiot Trump is going to be President? Hello!!!
How'd she do the exam ?
They have drop boxes for unwanted children.
Hopefully they are trying to locate the guy. That's important too.
gahuga wrote:
You won't see them rage about a case like this where, in their own accents, "a woman took control of her life and made the best decision for herself."
Yup. This is not surprising at all considering the views of extreme feminism. I once read an article by a feminist who thought that post-birth abortion was completely acceptable. This is also totally normal in China:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_ChinaDescriber of Dems wrote:
off base wrote:The discussion was about legal terms and despite what your opinion might be, abortion is not considered murder in the US or in Canada. Sorry.
A baby who survives a botched abortion is a baby. Killing it is infanticide and IS murder.
Sadly, the USA twice elected Barack Obama as President who as a State Senator in Illinois voted repeatedly to deny health care access to newborns (some of whom are denied care, e.g., following botched abortions or in cases of severe deformity). Despite his opposition, the law passed at the Federal level as the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act.
rojo wrote:
Most everyone is familiar with the outrage that erupted after a judge in California only sentenced Stanford student Brock Turner to six-months in jail for sexual assault.
Will there be even more outrage after a judge in Canada gave a woman who murdered her newborn before going to an exam just two years of probation?
In case you are wondering, this isn't a case about a late-term abortion. The baby was born healthy and drowned as detailed below.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/b-c-mother-who-drowned-newborn-son-at-home-before-taking-university-exam-gets-two-years-probation
I don't want to misrepresent rojo, but it was asked if there would be a "Stanford-type" outrage. Not outrage comparing the two horrible crimes. Meaning will people get as or more upset over this.
The answer is no. In the Stanford case, there are many women willing to vocally protest, carry signs, etc... They have a strong base of support.
This will not happen for the newest case because there is no support. Babies for the most part cannot talk nor could they hold signs (this would look ridiclous). Therefore, we will not hear the outrage, we will simply hear temper tantrums.
rojo wrote:
Most everyone is familiar with the outrage that erupted after a judge in California only sentenced Stanford student Brock Turner to six-months in jail for sexual assault.
Will there be even more outrage after a judge in Canada gave a woman who murdered her newborn before going to an exam just two years of probation?
In case you are wondering, this isn't a case about a late-term abortion. The baby was born healthy and drowned as detailed below.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/b-c-mother-who-drowned-newborn-son-at-home-before-taking-university-exam-gets-two-years-probation
Well Planned Parenthood has been mulling the 4th trimester abortion for some time now... Libs won't be happy until we have no more babies because it hurts the precious earth
sbeefyk1 wrote:
gahuga wrote:The rage in the Stanford case came from the feminists. You won't see them rage about a case like this where, in their own accents, "a woman took control of her life and made the best decision for herself."
Real feminism is simply the idea that men and women should be treated equal. You did not provide an example of feminism but rather some alternative version that is viewed as feminism but really is an extremist view.
Your "real feminism" was true 100 years ago. That extremist view sums up feminism today.
Just Hurting Inside wrote:
This hurts so bad. I pray for this poor baby and the soul of the woman. I also pray for all mankind that we have reached such an intense level of barbarism.
This will definitely accomplish something for sure.
Sounds like a plan wrote:
Just Hurting Inside wrote:This hurts so bad. I pray for this poor baby and the soul of the woman. I also pray for all mankind that we have reached such an intense level of barbarism.
This will definitely accomplish something for sure.
Your sentence is redundant.
Just an example of the real sexism that pervades our society.
not 100 years ago wrote:
sbeefyk1 wrote:Real feminism is simply the idea that men and women should be treated equal. You did not provide an example of feminism but rather some alternative version that is viewed as feminism but really is an extremist view.
Your "real feminism" was true 100 years ago. That extremist view sums up feminism today.
Saying feminism is summed up by extremist is no different than saying conservatives are racists. It's never a good idea to judge an entire group based on a loud vocal minority.
Beat me to it!
Bemis wrote:
How'd she do the exam ?