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No, you were overly saccharine, overly complimentary without evidence to back it which comes across insincere and creepy. For instance, why would you say I bet you're a great dancer? Do you have anything to back this up? It just comes across like you're trying to get on her good side and implying something gross. I'm not saying she was necessarily the best date herself, but trust me, you made her feel uncomfortable. I am a woman and I would have felt uncomfortable on this date. You don't have to believe me and you can resist all you want, but you're better off reflecting on what I am saying and taking my advice. Maybe she is a bad date (showing up 2 hours late is really rude and inconsiderate) but maybe she shut down because of how you were behaving.
Instead of all the weird crap you said, you could have asked how her week/weekend was going, asked about work, talked about your family or something interesting funny that happened to you or you did - that's generally how good dates go, attempting to get to know each other. Trust me when I say you come across as insincere when you keep complimenting someone you hardly know. Also if you are so insistent that she was a bad date and awful to go out with, why do you keep texting her and trying to get another date? I am not trying to be another mean person on this message board; I am just trying to give the truth to you straight from a woman's perspective so that you can learn from your mistakes.
Also showing interest to the degree you did isn’t good. The best dates I’ve been on felt like I was talking to or getting to know a friend, not with someone who repeatedly goes out of their way to show interest. The romantic part develops with time, not by forced displays of interest.
Idk how you met this girl but my advice to you is to join a running club or meet up event and try to meet girls with similar interests as you so you don’t have to force a conversation.
That's why there's alcohol
Banana Bread wrote:
I think the girl is the one who needs medication. She doesn't have the ability to answer messages and can't evan finish a coffe and cake. She can't evan smile when she laughs. She was miserable and never tried to make conversation. There was loads of awkward silences and the date was so short. If I see her again I'm going to tell her what I think of her.
That will help.
Yeah thats super cringey, but if that was me i'll probably make it even more cringey.I would probably just get coffee for myself then take a seat and just stare at the wall, it would be unlikely for me to even get coffee for her. I've given up on girls probably just wait it out until sex robots become mainstream.
Please teach us how to respond back. And what we should do about awkward silences.
Please respond! Please respond!
Here you go: introduce a topic and if it flies (meaning: she responds by either giving you more information about herself or her asking you a question) then continue down that avenue of conversation. If the topic fails like a lead balloon then just drop it and move on to another topic.
You could have asked her questions about what kind of dancing she does, how long she’s been practicing it, etc. I don’t think you bothered to ask her questions about herself at all. It was clear after the first few minutes that she just shut you down and was looking for ways to get out of there without looking rude. She finally just bailed on you and didn’t care how it looked.
It’s not fun conversing with a self-absorbed, insincere twit
I'm not OP, but a different guy.
My dates used to go pretty cool until I got wrecked. It's been 7 months and I feel like I've been pushed backward years.
Never date someone with BPD.... :(
It is good to get feedback, although I think it was harsh, and I don't appreciate some of the insults. I have autism, so I wonder if I should mention that at the beginning so that the girl is more understanding of me. I don't know how I look insincere and self absorbed. I spent about $10 on the girl and she barely touched her coffee and cake. I finished it when she left but it's the principle that counts. I asked her interests so I don't think I'm self absorbed. I thought it would be friendly to invite her shopping as it embraces her interests. I talked about running to prove to her that I'm fit/strong. I thought I would get a positive outcome for telling her she must be a good dancer.
Stop making a big deal out of paying for her coffee and cake. If you don't want to pay for it, go dutch. You might find that she offers to pay for you. Stop doing things that don't fit your character. People can see phonies a mile away,
Hi BananaBread, I'm a Bekele fan too.
Don't worry about that biatch.. like seriously dude, people like that are so lame and boring anyway, that's the reason they seem to have so many friends and hit it off so naturally with so many people because they are sheeps.. It's like most of the population is made up of a certain breed that gets off with eachother but they have no individuality either really.. These are the same losers that would had sat down with guys of the likes of Einstein, Socrates, Tesla, Plado..etc. and if they had not known who they were, they probably would had made the same excuse about having to leave after finishing their bread and latte.. Fuk em dude who cares! Socializing is a skill that can be improved but it's most definitely more natural for these pinheads.. I believe in the saying "everyone was created equally" and by that I think it means that you may not have the natural skill for socializing, but I'm willing to BET that you have some other very unique skillset that these pinheads don't acquire.. So if they are going to be shallow enough to not even give you a fair chance and judge you based off 1 of your weaknesses maybe they don't deserve to see you at your best and see your strengths.
"Hur dur dur my hobby is dancing" that's all she could say? sounds like a boring ass bimbo.. probably the only dancing she does is after a few shots at the club grinding on some random dude catching genital herpes.
Banana bread, didn't realize you had autism when I crafted my response. Sorry for being insensitive. My feedback still stands; however, I no longer think you're creepy or weird or anything like that. Just try to be open to feedback and look for girls with similar interests. It's up to you if you want to disclose your autism, that's personal, but it might help girls understand where you're coming from.
At least he got a woman to talk to him. ? Most people in general just give me dirty looks when I smile or say hello to them.
Annotations from a woman wrote: Banana bread, didn't realize you had autism when I crafted my response. Sorry for being insensitive. My feedback still stands; however, I no longer think you're creepy or weird or anything like that
pff!! Be real. No girl wants to be with an autistic dude. He can't disclose this upfront but if he doesn't he will get the same exact reaction you just provided i,e. "weird and creepy." So face the facts, as he does, he's done. Let's not pretend that women are all understanding and commiserable when it comes to dating (as opposed to supporting their whiteknighting "friends" for public relations points.) Let's not patronize him by pretending "there's someone for you" when that's just ego-salve. No. There. Isn't. Women are biAtches. Cauterize them from your life and things are much better.
I never said any of that, so stop projecting your own crap onto me.
Banana Bread wrote:
It is good to get feedback, although I think it was harsh, and I don't appreciate some of the insults. I have autism, so I wonder if I should mention that at the beginning so that the girl is more understanding of me. I don't know how I look insincere and self absorbed. I spent about $10 on the girl and she barely touched her coffee and cake. I finished it when she left but it's the principle that counts. I asked her interests so I don't think I'm self absorbed. I thought it would be friendly to invite her shopping as it embraces her interests. I talked about running to prove to her that I'm fit/strong. I thought I would get a positive outcome for telling her she must be a good dancer.
Pics?
annotations from a woman wrote:
I never said any of that, so stop projecting your own crap onto me.
LLOOOLL!!! Classic female! Denial of a written statement that she authored herself. Effective gaslighting needs bigger brains and more attention to detail than that.
No my dear, you said exactly those things. After all, you yourself told OP on the previous page:
annotations from a woman wrote: "I no longer think you're creepy or weird or anything like that."
Check your own posting. So, you "no longer" think so. That means, before that, you THOUGHT HE WAS CREEPY OR WEIRD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
Gotcha! You know it, and so does everyone reading this.
Dudes, you all know that women HATE HATE HATE being called out on their own actions when they contradict their self-identified morals..... and for them it's much worse when this is done by those whom they place into image-hell. Like INCELs such as me.
Facts stand for themselves and like many women you dig your own ethical hole so well. Just like those female callers to Leykis who try to argue that women don't use men, sponge from men, expect whiteknighting when convenient for them and dismiss it when not etc. Love the way Leykis gives it to them with both barrels!
Self-identifying as in "INCEL" is the fastest way to invalidate everything you say or write. Though your words highlight why you might do that in the first place.
No joke, my last girlfriend broke up with me about that exact thing. She had texted me something a few weeks earlier. I quoted the text she sent me, and she claimed to never have said it. Story of my life. That's why I screenshot texts these days. Because women will deny everything in a heartbeat even thought there is written proof.
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