Yeah House Negros are the problem. SMH!
Like Jeese Jackson, Al Sharpton, BLM don't benefit financially off the black community.
The problem is the black community and their belief that most positive human traits are thought to be "too white".
I don't think of myself being a black man, nor do I worry about acting "too white". Instead I strive to be a decent human being, and it has worked very well for me.
Not Black Enough wrote:
Yeah House Negros are the problem. SMH!
Like Jeese Jackson, Al Sharpton, BLM don't benefit financially off the black community.
The problem is the black community and their belief that most positive human traits are thought to be "too white".
I don't think of myself being a black man, nor do I worry about acting "too white". Instead I strive to be a decent human being, and it has worked very well for me.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton benefit but they do not harm or insult or otherwise cause problems for blacs.
But Sherriff Clarke's words actually make police brutality and unncesseary death more likely to happen.
Just like in the slavery days, a house negro snitching on a field slave often meant instant death.
L L wrote:
Black cops prejudge black suspects as do white cops.
Doesn't matter if you want to call that racist or not.
Are labels important or are the results?
Just being black makes you appear more suspicious and endangers you more.
And innocent black people are scared of this.
This is a very interesting post and I would like to probe your thoughts a bit more deeply.
So you think black cops are racially biased and see a black man as more dangerous than a white man. Black cops are racially prejudiced against people of the same color as themselves?
This seems to be a stretch to me.
I have different theories on the whole thing.
what do you think is meant by "more likely"?
In truth, the police is both racially biased and deeply in error in the way that it sets out procedures for handling suspects. Other countries do not have this kind of rate of police shootings even of whites, because, among other reasons, they rule out shooting suspects as a first step.
jjjjjj wrote:
what do you think is meant by "more likely"?
In truth, the police is both racially biased and deeply in error in the way that it sets out procedures for handling suspects. Other countries do not have this kind of rate of police shootings even of whites, because, among other reasons, they rule out shooting suspects as a first step.
In truth too, American criminals are much more violent and dangerous than in other counties. Our murder rate is pretty high.
It's about racist institutions and practices, not racist people.
Conundrum wrote:
L L wrote:Black cops prejudge black suspects as do white cops.
Doesn't matter if you want to call that racist or not.
Are labels important or are the results?
Just being black makes you appear more suspicious and endangers you more.
And innocent black people are scared of this.
This is a very interesting post and I would like to probe your thoughts a bit more deeply.
So you think black cops are racially biased and see a black man as more dangerous than a white man. Black cops are racially prejudiced against people of the same color as themselves?
This seems to be a stretch to me.
I have different theories on the whole thing.
How could that possibly be a stretch? That you think that it is anything other than obvious is bizarre.
Some Things Should be Obvious wrote:
Conundrum wrote:This is a very interesting post and I would like to probe your thoughts a bit more deeply.
So you think black cops are racially biased and see a black man as more dangerous than a white man. Black cops are racially prejudiced against people of the same color as themselves?
This seems to be a stretch to me.
I have different theories on the whole thing.
How could that possibly be a stretch? That you think that it is anything other than obvious is bizarre.
Should I answer the troll? I don't think so, not in the mood right now. Sorry.
It is all situational.
Being black myself I can assure you there have been times I have profiled black people and white people - and rightfully so.
I have been to football games where I "profiled" the group of white, drunk, obnoxious men making a$$es of themselves. Did they threaten my buddies and I - no. But we all know how that is a perfect recipe for a confrontation. I can assure you myself, surrounding sober fans and the ushers / cops interacted with them a lot differently than they did the rest of us. In fact the cops were always very cordial with us, including my big black a$$. Does that make me a racist or allow them to blame me for not tolerating their antisocial behavior?
On the other hand, while leaving the above mentioned games I have also "profiled" the groups of young black males scoping out fans walking 1/2-1 mile from the stadium. Multiple incidences of groups of young black males targeting fans leaving the games - knockout punches, robbing fans, grab and go purse snatching, etc. Did they threaten or molest us - no. But I can assure you I looked at them differently than I did the black fans leaving the stadium. And no I didn't see any groups of young white males but would have "profiled" them also.
Does that make me a racist?
It is called street smarts!!! All you white, privileged SJW's need to go walk in the hood every night for a week. Let me know how it works out for you. You will get beaten for the color of your skin!!! I can assure you of that.
jjjjjj wrote:
what do you think is meant by "more likely"?
In truth, the police is both racially biased and deeply in error in the way that it sets out procedures for handling suspects. Other countries do not have this kind of rate of police shootings even of whites, because, among other reasons, they rule out shooting suspects as a first step.
If a motorist gets out of a car with a gun in hand, you effing shoot him (or her)! Do you not understand that? The fact that it is usually a black guy doesn't change things. You need to shoot that black guy!
Conundrum wrote:
Some Things Should be Obvious wrote:How could that possibly be a stretch? That you think that it is anything other than obvious is bizarre.
Should I answer the troll? I don't think so, not in the mood right now. Sorry.
Not trolling? But great job hiding behind that.
Are you stupid? Do you think that the black skin color of a police officer somehow provides them with magical protective powers? Seriously, how stupid can you possibly be?
Some Things Should be Obvious wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Should I answer the troll? I don't think so, not in the mood right now. Sorry.
Not trolling? But great job hiding behind that.
Are you stupid? Do you think that the black skin color of a police officer somehow provides them with magical protective powers? Seriously, how stupid can you possibly be?
Yawn.
Your escalation still prompts zero reaction. You trolled more effectively on other threads.
The female pig murderer in Tulsa has been charged with manslaughter. Haha.
Conundrum wrote:
Some Things Should be Obvious wrote:Not trolling? But great job hiding behind that.
Are you stupid? Do you think that the black skin color of a police officer somehow provides them with magical protective powers? Seriously, how stupid can you possibly be?
Yawn.
Your escalation still prompts zero reaction. You trolled more effectively on other threads.
You are a moron who hides behind calling others trolls. Unimpressed.
"Yawn" - Oh yeah, that's real impressive!
And you seriously think that black police officers somehow feel some magical protection from violence from black people? Can't wait to hear your brilliant justification for that. Oh yeah, you can't justify it with any intelligence. Better off just finding something to hide behind. Oh wait . . .
Some Things Should be Obvious wrote:
You are a moron who hides behind calling others trolls. Unimpressed.
". . .
yawn
Telling wrote:
I don't know about racists. But I can say without doubt that Sherriff Clarke is a house negro i.e. a black person who benefits financially by bashing other black people.
The whole reason he makes statements about wanting to beat up other blacks and saying there is no such thing as police brutality is to endear himself to racists and the alt right.
This way he can get book deals and speaking fees.
In today's republican party, the only prominent blacks are the house negro types whose existence is based on bashing blacks. Gone are the days when there were people like Condoleeza Rice who were in the republican party because they are staunch conservatives.
I don't remember him ever saying there is no such thing as police brutality. If you have a link to it, I'd like to read it.
My impression of your post though is that's its pretty offensive. There are many blacks who don't support the BLM movement and feel the police have been excessively stereotyped. I think to call blacks who speak out about it "house negro's" seems to be a slur of the worst kind.
Yes. Black cops can be racially biased against people the same color as themselves.
Since racism tends to mean having adverse actions towards someone of a different race, this is plain old prejudice, not racism.
Both white cops and black cops have bad experiences with criminals who are black.
So they are quicker on the trigger when they see black skin.
But this is completely unfair to innocent black people who now are more likely to be put in harms way simply because of their color.
No one should be shot if they are not posing an imminent threat.
We are dealing with an epidemic where black people who are not posing an imminent threat are getting shot.
And at the same time we see an incredibly low indictment rate and non-existing conviction rate of cops who shoot these people who are not posing an imminent threat.
L L wrote:
Yes. Black cops can be racially biased against people the same color as themselves.
Since racism tends to mean having adverse actions towards someone of a different race, this is plain old prejudice, not racism.
Both white cops and black cops have bad experiences with criminals who are black.
So they are quicker on the trigger when they see black skin.
But this is completely unfair to innocent black people who now are more likely to be put in harms way simply because of their color.
No one should be shot if they are not posing an imminent threat.
We are dealing with an epidemic where black people who are not posing an imminent threat are getting shot.
And at the same time we see an incredibly low indictment rate and non-existing conviction rate of cops who shoot these people who are not posing an imminent threat.
I agree with a lot of what you say. But it is wrong to say it is an epidemic where black people who pose no threat are getting shot. In most instances the black motorist had a gun or was acting in an aggressive or threatening manner. Blacks are killing cops more so than whites or other races. So, police have a reason to be more suspicious of black motorists. It is not fair to innocent black motorists but just the way it is.
So we will have to disagree whether there is an epidemic.
If there is no epidemic then all of these protests, discussions and activists groups are baseless.
A big overreaction to a few bad apples.
Nothing to fear.
L L wrote:
So we will have to disagree whether there is an epidemic.
If there is no epidemic then all of these protests, discussions and activists groups are baseless.
A big overreaction to a few bad apples.
Nothing to fear.
When these activist groups are attempting to kill innocent people and injure and maim police officers who are just out there keeping the peace, you can not call them protests or discussions (what a silly word) - they are riots.